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Post by mags on Dec 24, 2005 14:18:14 GMT 1
Had this discussion with my farrier the other day. What is it that causes some people to wind horses up with a so called 'hot bum' ? Alfie is general quiet with me but my friend gets on and he's pinging all over the place. It cant be riding ability as a friend who is a good rider would just try and walk Dan and he'd be cantering sideways, yet my unhorsey OH could do anything with him. My farriers theory was that it had something to do with contact as he found the same could happen driving, ruling out seat?
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Post by donna on Dec 24, 2005 16:06:24 GMT 1
Don't know, but it definately exists! I work in a riding school part time, and some people do wind them up without doing anything. Other people seem to have the opposite effect, and can turn any horse into a plod!
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Post by KoLaTo on Dec 24, 2005 16:47:13 GMT 1
Mmmm, I've been told I have a 'hot seat' before. Not really sure what it means myself, I used to enter a lot of 'Best Rider' classes a few years ago and always got comments when we swapped over like 'how do you make him do that' or 'how come you can do that without moving?' Never understood it myself although a Judge once said that I ride almost completely from my trunk, weight shifting and butt rather than using hands and legs hence the comments of 'doing something without moving'. I thought she was being insulting but she was actually complementing me!! Ooops! The mare I have now, I bought from a friend who was selling for another friend because she wasn't fast and exciting enough for them, trust me, she isn't, my friend cannot believe the change in her since I have had her as she pings around all over the place and is lovely to ride althou her jogging can get tiring in the winter - gives me a sore back - ow! I now appreciate how my so called 'hot seat' affects different horses and use it to my advantage as I can also calm and quieten with it somehow but lord knows, don't ask me how I do it! - LOL
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Post by jill on Dec 24, 2005 17:27:12 GMT 1
I think it could be to do with geneal energy levels. Len Judd encourages his students to get upward transitions by "raising up their life" - I've tried it and it works really well. Thinking about it, if horses in the wild became aware of a high energy source in the area they would assume it meant predator/kill/fright. so it would seem to fit. Maybe meditation would help those with electric bums? Certainly some way to be more relaxed would probably be the answer.
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Post by KoLaTo on Dec 24, 2005 18:36:04 GMT 1
Do you know Jill, that has really made me think, I am actually a really relaxed rider sometimes to the point of being sloppy - LOL but I do suffer from crazy static shocks and can even get a shock from the plants at work! No-one will pass me on the stairs now as I can shock them just with a fingertip! I have tried allsorts for it, change of washing powder, using loads of softener, piles of moisturiser and cotton clothes but it dosen't seem to make a jot of difference. When I change rugs on the ponies, you can hear them crackle as I pull them off, perhaps it does actually have something to do with it and I am transferring my electric pulses thru to the ponies - PMSL now thinking I could light my way round the yard if I can find some way of harnessing the energy! You can just see it now can't you? A little blue light crackling and trundling round the 10 acre with an acre of space between me and any other living creature!
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Post by mags on Dec 24, 2005 18:53:44 GMT 1
Lol if it was static electricity how would that account for the same thing driving
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Post by KimT on Dec 24, 2005 19:11:37 GMT 1
god knows its true that people have electric bums. i got one. my old horse and my mums horse behave so quietly for everyone else but when i get on them.....fun!!!LOL they ping bout all over the place and i never know why. there is just something about me!!! ;D
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Post by annahindley on Dec 24, 2005 19:19:36 GMT 1
Me to. perhaps is more personal energy than electricity. I am a bit excitable when on board! I also think I use a lot of seat aides as this is how I ws taught. I think there is nmore to it than that though....
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Post by jill on Dec 24, 2005 22:04:33 GMT 1
I did actually mean personal energy, not static electricity, although it is a thought. (Ponypit you could come and energise my electric fences for me if you like). Electric bums is just a phrase I've heard used for years round here Some people seem to be generally "busy" - you know, they tire you out just being around them. Some are really laid back and chilled. That's what I mean, but for a horse laid back and chilled communicates everything's fine, you can relax, but busy means somethings up, get ready to rumble - so they do. That's my theory anyway.
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Post by fin on Dec 25, 2005 0:28:36 GMT 1
Just to be awkward....but practically every horse I've ever ridden has turned into an utter plod! Much to my horror, I might add-- I'm an utter 100mph maniac--I live on Red Bull and you couldn't keep me still if you tied me up. So I'm not quite sure what's going on apart from I'm pretty sure I don't project energy to the horse--at least not in a way that they react to....
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Post by monet on Dec 25, 2005 12:57:08 GMT 1
my friend and i were having this chat last night.....shes a nervous rider,
she said when she used to ride her old horse he was an angel as she siad in her words "i just sat there" but her friend who is loaning him finds him really hard to handle rearing etc...she puts it down to her friend trying to hard with him?
it just goes to show.
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Post by Lydia00 on Dec 25, 2005 22:50:19 GMT 1
Wow, this is an interesting topic! Its got me thinking now cool!
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Post by cesca on Dec 25, 2005 23:06:10 GMT 1
Sorry but I don't buy this. But that's because I have encountered two people who claimed to have a "hot bum" - one always wore spurs no matter what she was on, the other used to have such a permanently tight rein she was nearly touching the bit rings. Sure their horses got wound up!
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Post by mags on Dec 26, 2005 0:27:09 GMT 1
Not sure about the energy thing- been thinking about the the people I know who wound horses up and wouldn't say they were higher energy people than those that didn't..
I'm still in favor of the contact thing..whether its more or less which I guess depends on the horse. Dan and Alfie are more confident when you pick up the reins where as another horse I had was more relaxed on a looser rein.
Cant thing of anything else that would count driving to have the same effect
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Post by KoLaTo on Dec 26, 2005 1:00:36 GMT 1
cesca - promise faithfully, i don't wear spurs, they remain highly polished in their box from my showing days (many years ago!) and double promise I don't ride with tight reins either, you simply can't on my mare as she cannot stand the contact so I ride on the buckle most of the time and take take the contact when she decides to take the pee ! Always have done no matter what horse I have had the pleasure to ride. I've been having a think as to what i may do different to other riders without the same effect and simply cannot find the answer. I have an instructor friend who has commented many times on my secure but very pliable seat so maybe i sit a lot deeper so therefore feel the contact a little more in my body and pass my energy thru? Not sure but we are due to visit instructor friend in the new year so am going to ask her to study my position and contact on different horses and see if she can see what i do? Can't comment on driving as I have only taken the reins once on my friends pair and pooped me pants mightily as she just handed them over to me! Must admit didn't notice a marked difference in the pair but then i was so quiet and gobsmacked that she had handed the reins over that i don't think i'd have noticed if an alien had sat down next to me - LOL!
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