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Post by annahindley on Dec 27, 2005 17:22:42 GMT 1
Contraversial Jo  Interesting about the ice, but its not so convenient as my old cotton rope(NB I don't use baler twine)! Wouldn't want to keep ice in my pocket, esp today - but I would assume it works in exactly the same way. It would also avoid applying the excessive pressure that can occur with a Kamachie bridle.... At least we all agree we would not ride in this gum strap thing. Izzy - getting back to you (sorry!) - why do you think your horse reacts in this way to the saddle? |
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Post by Persianhorse on Dec 27, 2005 17:28:54 GMT 1
I do my best Kaz I dont knwo how to post photo to this site but I will.
I think you can find photo in one of Montys books also.
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Post by kas on Dec 27, 2005 18:04:09 GMT 1
I don't have any of Monty's books ;D Maybe someone else here could enlighten on these goggles?
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Post by Persianhorse on Dec 28, 2005 16:02:10 GMT 1
KAS Its like a hat the hed and tow ears go inside it and comes half the way down under the jaw will tie and covers the hed,it has rubber eye cover you can cover the tow sides of each eye so the horse will look straight forward or you can cover the bottom half of each eye which is good for schooling the horses which rear and bucking,I hope I could describe it a little.
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Post by Cathy248 on Dec 28, 2005 16:27:57 GMT 1
Correct me if I'm wrong - but are the googles you are talking about like the ones used in racing? Where the horse wears a lycra hood with a bit of rubber obscuring the side/bottom of the horse's vision? Will have a search on google and put a link up to a picture - if I can...
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Post by Cathy248 on Dec 28, 2005 16:29:33 GMT 1
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Post by kas on Dec 28, 2005 17:47:42 GMT 1
Oh, I wonder? Never heard of this to stop bucking, but if all physical had been eliminated doesn't look as severe as a buckstopper. I know buckstoppers are a last resort...
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Post by Persianhorse on Dec 28, 2005 21:41:16 GMT 1
Yes Cathy 248 some horses have it in racing.
The anti bucking and rearing the top half is open and the bottom half is closed this is the best tool to over come the rearing and bucking as a habit for sometime you use it in schooling and its OK after wards you don't need it for all time just to overcome the problem and put it away for some other horse its a useful tool.
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Post by sueboz on Dec 29, 2005 11:43:24 GMT 1
Some interesting points made on this thread.
However I feel that some comments about Join Up are, in my opinion, wrong. If you have seen someone 'chasing' a horse around a small pen, then you haven't seen Join Up.
Join Up is conducted in a 50 foot diametre round pen, and does not carry on until the horse 'submits' or is so tired that it cannot move anymore. When done correctly many horses will show signs that the handler should pick up and act on. Thus starting to communicate with the horse via body language and signals in a way that it can understand. You are in fact beginning to show the horse that you are an effective leader by influencing it's movement. This is then built on via groundwork and fair consisitant handling. Join Up at most is done two or three times. It must be looked on as a part of training and not the be all and end all.
A good trainer will soon pick up if a horse is not suitable for join up and end the session.
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Post by izzy on Dec 30, 2005 10:49:46 GMT 1
annahindley-sorry taken so long to reply.personally from what little i know about henry i believe he reacts like this due to over girthing or a bad fitting saddle.i had his back checked and he was out at the back of the saddle this probably didnt help.last week i lunged him in a surcingle and sat the saddle on him afterwards he looked unsure but didnt react when i put pressure on it and moved it about.he was owned by a man (no offence to other men) but in mt experience they tend to over girth before they get on perhaps this is part of his problem.unfortunately i wont be doing any more with him at the mo due to the snow.
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Post by mags on Dec 30, 2005 12:23:33 GMT 1
Not sure id be happy about the blinkers. Iv seen the results of a horse been blindfolded to make it go forward, the theory been that if the horse wasn't in pain it would go forwards when blindfolded. If it still didn't go forward there must be pain somewhere(horse in question would throw him self on the floor on the lunge unless blindfolded)
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