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Oct 4, 2005 17:32:16 GMT 1
Post by gwenoakes on Oct 4, 2005 17:32:16 GMT 1
Agree with Varkie on shoes being removed it was the first thing we did with our boy.
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lucy2
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Oct 4, 2005 19:10:21 GMT 1
Post by lucy2 on Oct 4, 2005 19:10:21 GMT 1
Thank you everyone for all your support at the current time. I think we may well be going bare foot - if we manage to get through this.
Will of course keep you all posted. Thank you once again. Lucy2
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Oct 5, 2005 15:36:28 GMT 1
Post by gwenoakes on Oct 5, 2005 15:36:28 GMT 1
Hi Lucy2 - Any news? Really, really feel for you and your horse, like I said before like re-living the past. XX
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carolwilts
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Oct 5, 2005 15:41:13 GMT 1
Post by carolwilts on Oct 5, 2005 15:41:13 GMT 1
Yes.. I'm curious about news as well..
Hope all went well, Lucy2. I am rooting for you and Seamus (sp??)
hugs
carol
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lucy2
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Oct 5, 2005 21:44:47 GMT 1
Post by lucy2 on Oct 5, 2005 21:44:47 GMT 1
Had two hour meeting and treatment session with senior partner vet and farrier. Farrier has had case of canker before, where surgery was used - similar to that the vet wanted to carry out on Seamus. However, that surgery was carried out 8 years ago and the horse still displays signs of canker now - he has good days and bad days. Neither the vet, farrier or myself felt such radical surgery was justified if we could not guarantee a result. The vet was explaining to me that he feels the problem is not in the bacterial infections - they are just sypmtoms. He feels that there is some sort of breakdown in the manufacturing of the horn tissue - so in effect it grows back deformed. Surgey will not repair the manufacturing side of things. Today we nerve blocked the feet and cut away more dead tissue. The vet would like to try steriods - as he feels this might help. I am still treating him homeopathically with Thuja 200c twice daily and application of calendular tincture. The vet said that there are no recorded cases of sucessfully treating canker so that it actually disappears - but you can try to manage it. OH and I are away for a few days now, so I am pleased Seamus is staying at the hospital - I know he will be cared for in my short absence. It also gives us a chance to get our head round things, as at the end of the day the vet said we have a 50/50 chance of getting through things. But I certainly wouldn't want him to carry the condition for 8 years or more like this other little chap has done.
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Oct 5, 2005 22:26:39 GMT 1
Post by gwenoakes on Oct 5, 2005 22:26:39 GMT 1
Oh bloody hell Lucy 2 - So very sorry. You are right to go away and recharge your batteries. It will do you and your OH good. Thinking back to our shire we actually got rid of it but within a matter of months it had come back with a vengence and in the right fore that the thrush had originally started in. You would think with all the modern medicine and technology at our fingertips there would be something someone could do with good results. After seeing what our shire went through have to say I agree with you not wanting him to have reaccuring (sp) attacks or surgery. It is IMHO one of the worst things a horse can go through it just goes on and on. My thoughts are with you all. X
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Thrush
Oct 6, 2005 11:14:46 GMT 1
Post by PD on Oct 6, 2005 11:14:46 GMT 1
Well, at least you've had a frank and open discussion with all the experts who've seen him at close hand. Sometimes when vets are very "careful" in what they tell you its annoying because you can't make the right decision before its too late.
The break will assist you in thinking things through, I'm very sorry you even have to deal with this, but based on the advice you've been given I think your right to be certain that you wouldn't want to carry on seeing him deal with this condition for 8 years. See how the steriods work over the next week, then you can decide how to proceed.
All my thoughts are with you also. xxx
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lucy2
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Oct 12, 2005 20:53:59 GMT 1
Post by lucy2 on Oct 12, 2005 20:53:59 GMT 1
Back from our break and Seamus coming home from hospital tomorrow. Vet says he feels there has been some improvement with the use of the steroids - which is the first positive noises the vet has made. I'm still all of a complete dither and still not really sure what the outcome will be. He has another two Weeks to go on the steroids so we will have another review of things then.
I do however feel that a major educational campaign is needed for vets and farriers alike in the recognition of canker. I would also like to see more research work done into the treatment too.
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Oct 13, 2005 10:34:06 GMT 1
Post by PD on Oct 13, 2005 10:34:06 GMT 1
Hi Lucy2, glad you've had some positive news, your comments re canker I wholeheartedly agree with. We'll all remember your situation and tell others if they have significant thrush problems. Let us know how things go. All the best
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hebs
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Oct 31, 2005 19:42:22 GMT 1
Post by hebs on Oct 31, 2005 19:42:22 GMT 1
Hi My horse has had thrush for a week now, I've been cleaning the hoof with hibiscrub and then putting terramicin on it. I was recommended trying hydro.... peroxide. Couldnt get it in the chemists, so have bought mouthwash with borax in. Will this work??
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Nov 1, 2005 13:03:13 GMT 1
Post by chrissiew on Nov 1, 2005 13:03:13 GMT 1
Hebs - if you want good advice on thrush, take a look on www.enlightenedequitation.com forum Barefoot section and I think there was recently a long thread on the Health section too. Surprised you weren't able to get hydrogen peroxide from the chemist, Boots usually do it, but you have to ask at the counter.
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Nov 1, 2005 13:37:40 GMT 1
Post by Louise C on Nov 1, 2005 13:37:40 GMT 1
Boots also do Borax. Lucy - how are you doing?
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Nov 1, 2005 13:37:50 GMT 1
Post by Boony on Nov 1, 2005 13:37:50 GMT 1
oh yuk just read your thread poor you hope it sorts itself out havnt come across canker but i did have a shire who arrived with a very smelly foot one in particular wouldnt clear up so i ended up using athletes foot powder its antifungal and antiseptic and had a good jet on it so you can blast it into all the little nooks and crannies and it cleared up a treat in a couple of weeks it called mycil i think or something similar, i did also have the advantage of being able to go no the beach for a paddle every day as well so i suppose the salt water helped as well, its also great for clearing up leg mites, good luck fingers crossed for you xxx
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lucy2
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Nov 1, 2005 22:03:26 GMT 1
Post by lucy2 on Nov 1, 2005 22:03:26 GMT 1
Check out the 'Seamus Canker Update' Thread to see how Seamus is progressing.
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Thrush
Dec 9, 2005 0:55:12 GMT 1
Post by emmacrunkhorn on Dec 9, 2005 0:55:12 GMT 1
excellent advice, i am also an aromatherapist and treated my sisters horse with seedy toe with tea tree oils My sister is an Aromatherapist - The best thing I have ever used is Tea Tree and Lavender pure essential oils. You can get them from Holland & Barrett - they are both REALLY good strong but gentle disinfectants/antibacterials. The lavender also helps with cell renewal. If you get some vodka and put the whole bottle lavender oil, tea tree oil and about 100ml of vodka into a bottle (MUST BE A GLASS BOTTLE other wise the chemicals in the plastic leach into the oils) - shake well. Give the hoof a good wash out with salt water then apply the mixture using a spray or brush 2 - 3 times a day - you'll be amazed
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