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Subject : Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 2:17:00 PM
Well I've seen midges today, so must start this year's plan this week.
Has anyone ever used piriton either liquid or tablets with any success for Sweet Itch?
This will be my 3rd summer with Morgan who is a very bad case. At the end of last year, I used Camrosa ointment with a little success (but it was very late on in the season, so am expecting better this year). I've also used a Boett rug which was absolutely wonderful, unfortunately it didn't last long. If I could post and rail all our fields it would be ideal, but we don't live in a perfect world.
Anyway, if anyone knows anything about Piriton, I'd be grateful, it might avoid the need for so many lotions and potions which would be great as, due to being so itchy in the summer, he can be a nightmare to apply stuff to his itchy areas, especially his "bits" which the midges seem to home in on.
I won't be back on until later this afternoon/eve, but I will reply. Any help would be lovely.
Thanks,
Sarah
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Gaye with Chloe
Date : 16.02.04 2:22:00 PM
The problem is it's so expensive ! i got some for Chloe's ears last summer and it did seem to help a bit. Are you applying the camrosa as a barrier ! I am tring the Gold ointment from the sweet itch centre this year but that too is v expensive. Am also going to try first a layer of vaseline on a hogged mane under the boett and on her tail, fly mask on face to protect her eyes and ears.
Good luck, I am dreading it
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 4:39:00 PM
Gaye,
I was reading an old thread from last year about Piriton that said 500 tablets from Boots was about £9.00. If you were feeding between 5 and 10 a day, I thought it didn't sound too bad. I don't know what quantities to feed though.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Hannah
Date : 16.02.04 4:41:00 PM
couldnt not recommend NAF D-ITCH supplement enough! really eased my pony itchiness and the liquid is good for any rub you do get but it is oily and stains the coat.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 4:41:00 PM
Sorry Gaye, Yes I am using the Camrosa as a barrier, but Morgan hates me fussing, so it can be a bit hit and miss. I tend to do mane one day and tail the next as his tolerance levels are quite low. Mine probably would be if my skin looked like his in the summer. The other thing with the Camrosa is that it's quite expensive, but then isn't everything?
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 4:44:00 PM
Hannah,
Thanks for that, but it didn't touch Morgan in 2002 when I tried it. He is a really severe case though. Oh well, hope to have a vaccine in 4 years! Maybe life will begin at 12 for my boy.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From :
Date : 16.02.04 4:47:00 PM
using the Rambo Sweet Itch Hoody again this year, did brilliantly last year (even recovered well when I left if off for 48 hours - he was very hot out in sun but he then rubbed tail raw, mane half off and skin was very bitten)
Also use cheaper? Zinc and Caster Oil cream, (Sudocrem) around sheath and any itch bites he comes up with that isn't covered by rug/hood. I use the Horse sense face mask (got ears and nose net) and think that was much better than my Rambo one I used year before.
Rugging has been my best bet yet, as he lives out 24/7 in summer. This year tho on full livery, we'll see if he fares better as I think he will be in each night.
Any topical stuff with DEET in it is excellant for sweet itch, it's the best stuff against midges I think.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Jo
Date : 16.02.04 4:48:00 PM
oops, that was from me, Jo.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From :
Date : 16.02.04 4:54:00 PM
NAF D - itch worked well on our dogs too when they had afled allergy!
Great for horses too :-)
DEET has been linked to skin cancer in humans, so perhaps not best to use on a grey horse that may be prone to melanoma's anyway.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 5:03:00 PM
Thanks, I've got some Deet spray, but only ever use it to ride, he's chestnut. I use Avon SSS which is great for 4/5 hours, but again he hates being faffed with which is why I was thinking of something to put in his feed. Has anyone had any luck with Indian herbs and, if so, where can I buy them from?
Jo,
Unfortunately, he's a rug trasher!
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : sleepyhead
Date : 16.02.04 6:30:00 PM
Does Piriton not make horses drowsy lke it does humans? (just curious) or is there a non drowsy tablet available (dont get hay fever so dont know)
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : mel
Date : 16.02.04 7:25:00 PM
do you water down the avon sss or just apply it as it is?
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : pj
Date : 16.02.04 7:29:00 PM
Avon bath oil (So Soft I believe they call it)can also be very good..provideds a pleasant barrier especially head and ears. pj.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Lorraine L
Date : 16.02.04 9:28:00 PM
Piriton did not make Sunny sleepy at all.
Sarah, I used Pirtion for Sunny two years running and eventually he just had no need for it at all.
If you check out any old threads for headshaking etc.. you will see all of my old drivel on there about it.
If you need any further help, feel free to mail me:
L DOT Luke AT btopenworld DOT com
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 9:46:00 PM
Lorraine L,
I have just emailed you.
Thanks,
Sarah
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 9:48:00 PM
Mel,
I just use the Avon SSS neat. I know a lot of people water it down, but I think that reduces it's efficiancy. It only works for a few hours anyway. but during those few hours is very effective.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : mel
Date : 17.02.04 8:56:00 AM
ok, thanks!
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Nicola
Date : 17.02.04 10:04:00 AM
Sarah, we used homeopathic remedies (sulphur and culicoides) under supervision of our homeopathic vet plus an Indian herb called Skratch - both helped a lot.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sharon
Date : 17.02.04 10:16:00 AM
Last year I had a very bad reaction to some anti biotics I had been prescribed.
My skin was really bad, I did not sleep for days so really feel for any horse with sweet itch. I was prescribed Periton, however it did not help at all, so the doc upped me to some pills called Atarax which he said were much stronger, they did however make me sleepy, but this was a small price to pay for some relief.
Just a thought, worth a chat to the vet?, they are only available on prescription though.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : rcvs vn
Date : 17.02.04 10:02:00 PM
Piriton, brand name for an antihistamine, not usually recommended for animal use, horses tend not to respond to antihistamines, can cause bad side effects,( behavioural and physical) speak to a vet, could be very dangerous to administer this drug.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From :
Date : 17.02.04 10:03:00 PM
up
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 18.02.04 0:55:00 AM
Veterinary nurse,
i will be speaking to my vet tomorrow as he is coming to scan our cows (to see if they're in calf). What side effects do you hink Piriton can cause? My boy is very badly behaved on the ground anyway as he is so itchy.
Please give me more info.
Thanks,
Sarah
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 2:17:00 PM
Well I've seen midges today, so must start this year's plan this week.
Has anyone ever used piriton either liquid or tablets with any success for Sweet Itch?
This will be my 3rd summer with Morgan who is a very bad case. At the end of last year, I used Camrosa ointment with a little success (but it was very late on in the season, so am expecting better this year). I've also used a Boett rug which was absolutely wonderful, unfortunately it didn't last long. If I could post and rail all our fields it would be ideal, but we don't live in a perfect world.
Anyway, if anyone knows anything about Piriton, I'd be grateful, it might avoid the need for so many lotions and potions which would be great as, due to being so itchy in the summer, he can be a nightmare to apply stuff to his itchy areas, especially his "bits" which the midges seem to home in on.
I won't be back on until later this afternoon/eve, but I will reply. Any help would be lovely.
Thanks,
Sarah
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Gaye with Chloe
Date : 16.02.04 2:22:00 PM
The problem is it's so expensive ! i got some for Chloe's ears last summer and it did seem to help a bit. Are you applying the camrosa as a barrier ! I am tring the Gold ointment from the sweet itch centre this year but that too is v expensive. Am also going to try first a layer of vaseline on a hogged mane under the boett and on her tail, fly mask on face to protect her eyes and ears.
Good luck, I am dreading it
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 4:39:00 PM
Gaye,
I was reading an old thread from last year about Piriton that said 500 tablets from Boots was about £9.00. If you were feeding between 5 and 10 a day, I thought it didn't sound too bad. I don't know what quantities to feed though.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Hannah
Date : 16.02.04 4:41:00 PM
couldnt not recommend NAF D-ITCH supplement enough! really eased my pony itchiness and the liquid is good for any rub you do get but it is oily and stains the coat.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 4:41:00 PM
Sorry Gaye, Yes I am using the Camrosa as a barrier, but Morgan hates me fussing, so it can be a bit hit and miss. I tend to do mane one day and tail the next as his tolerance levels are quite low. Mine probably would be if my skin looked like his in the summer. The other thing with the Camrosa is that it's quite expensive, but then isn't everything?
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 4:44:00 PM
Hannah,
Thanks for that, but it didn't touch Morgan in 2002 when I tried it. He is a really severe case though. Oh well, hope to have a vaccine in 4 years! Maybe life will begin at 12 for my boy.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From :
Date : 16.02.04 4:47:00 PM
using the Rambo Sweet Itch Hoody again this year, did brilliantly last year (even recovered well when I left if off for 48 hours - he was very hot out in sun but he then rubbed tail raw, mane half off and skin was very bitten)
Also use cheaper? Zinc and Caster Oil cream, (Sudocrem) around sheath and any itch bites he comes up with that isn't covered by rug/hood. I use the Horse sense face mask (got ears and nose net) and think that was much better than my Rambo one I used year before.
Rugging has been my best bet yet, as he lives out 24/7 in summer. This year tho on full livery, we'll see if he fares better as I think he will be in each night.
Any topical stuff with DEET in it is excellant for sweet itch, it's the best stuff against midges I think.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Jo
Date : 16.02.04 4:48:00 PM
oops, that was from me, Jo.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From :
Date : 16.02.04 4:54:00 PM
NAF D - itch worked well on our dogs too when they had afled allergy!
Great for horses too :-)
DEET has been linked to skin cancer in humans, so perhaps not best to use on a grey horse that may be prone to melanoma's anyway.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 5:03:00 PM
Thanks, I've got some Deet spray, but only ever use it to ride, he's chestnut. I use Avon SSS which is great for 4/5 hours, but again he hates being faffed with which is why I was thinking of something to put in his feed. Has anyone had any luck with Indian herbs and, if so, where can I buy them from?
Jo,
Unfortunately, he's a rug trasher!
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : sleepyhead
Date : 16.02.04 6:30:00 PM
Does Piriton not make horses drowsy lke it does humans? (just curious) or is there a non drowsy tablet available (dont get hay fever so dont know)
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : mel
Date : 16.02.04 7:25:00 PM
do you water down the avon sss or just apply it as it is?
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : pj
Date : 16.02.04 7:29:00 PM
Avon bath oil (So Soft I believe they call it)can also be very good..provideds a pleasant barrier especially head and ears. pj.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Lorraine L
Date : 16.02.04 9:28:00 PM
Piriton did not make Sunny sleepy at all.
Sarah, I used Pirtion for Sunny two years running and eventually he just had no need for it at all.
If you check out any old threads for headshaking etc.. you will see all of my old drivel on there about it.
If you need any further help, feel free to mail me:
L DOT Luke AT btopenworld DOT com
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 9:46:00 PM
Lorraine L,
I have just emailed you.
Thanks,
Sarah
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 16.02.04 9:48:00 PM
Mel,
I just use the Avon SSS neat. I know a lot of people water it down, but I think that reduces it's efficiancy. It only works for a few hours anyway. but during those few hours is very effective.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : mel
Date : 17.02.04 8:56:00 AM
ok, thanks!
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Nicola
Date : 17.02.04 10:04:00 AM
Sarah, we used homeopathic remedies (sulphur and culicoides) under supervision of our homeopathic vet plus an Indian herb called Skratch - both helped a lot.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sharon
Date : 17.02.04 10:16:00 AM
Last year I had a very bad reaction to some anti biotics I had been prescribed.
My skin was really bad, I did not sleep for days so really feel for any horse with sweet itch. I was prescribed Periton, however it did not help at all, so the doc upped me to some pills called Atarax which he said were much stronger, they did however make me sleepy, but this was a small price to pay for some relief.
Just a thought, worth a chat to the vet?, they are only available on prescription though.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : rcvs vn
Date : 17.02.04 10:02:00 PM
Piriton, brand name for an antihistamine, not usually recommended for animal use, horses tend not to respond to antihistamines, can cause bad side effects,( behavioural and physical) speak to a vet, could be very dangerous to administer this drug.
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From :
Date : 17.02.04 10:03:00 PM
up
Subject : re:- Piriton for Sweet Itch
From : Sarah
Date : 18.02.04 0:55:00 AM
Veterinary nurse,
i will be speaking to my vet tomorrow as he is coming to scan our cows (to see if they're in calf). What side effects do you hink Piriton can cause? My boy is very badly behaved on the ground anyway as he is so itchy.
Please give me more info.
Thanks,
Sarah
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