Post by Admin on Aug 4, 2005 13:37:18 GMT 1
Subject : Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 8:36:00 AM
My horse has started rubbing and I've noticed someone else's on another thread. Any tips for preparation?
Does anyone have any experience of tackling sweetitch without resorting to rugs? I found the NetTex cream pretty good last year, but it didn't completely prevent it. I found Avon SSS didn't seem to keep the midges off. I fed Naf DItch, but not sure how effective it was as the sweetitch still happened.
Any homeopathic supplements that people swear by?
Thank you.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Lesley @ Trallwm Farm
Date : 04.02.05 8:46:00 AM
I dont use the gloopy oily stuff that makes them itch more.
I discovered vetrazine which is for sheep.Ok your pony will have a blue or green stripe for a few days but it stops anything coming near the pony and therefore no sweetitch.
You apply it once every ten weeks and at £17 a bottle its not expensive.Its great for around wounds to.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 8:50:00 AM
Thanks Lesley. I don't care what colour he is!
I'm just really not keep on using the rugs, for a start I think sometimes they actually make him itchy and another I have seen midges underneath them. Must be murder!
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Jude
Date : 04.02.05 8:59:00 AM
Ive just started having problems again too. My youngster (black) seems to attract midges much more than the other 2 (palomino & red chestnut) He always has swarms of midges compared to the others.
Lesley, can you use vetrazine safely on the hair inside the ears?
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : mel
Date : 04.02.05 9:06:00 AM
my sweet itch news letter came the other day. it said put the rugs on before midges, no later than march. but they are out already!
My boy was itching last night and i'm anoyed as i wanted to get his boett on before the midges this year. i shall put it on tonight but i'm already too late.
For me, i tried all lotions and resorted to a boett. must say, that is the best prevention i've found and i too didnt want to resort to a rug. But its saved a lot of hassle. My boy does get bad though, behaviour wise, if itchy. he just tears around like a mad thing.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : OP
Date : 04.02.05 9:15:00 AM
I saw on your website Lesley that you had controlled sweetitch in one of your ponies. Good stuff! Was that really the end of it? I can hardly bear to hope, but it would be great as he has actually grown a bit of mane now. Last year he rubbed quite a bit off, produced the bottle brush tail and a couple of bare patches on his neck and face.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Lesley @ Trallwm farm
Date : 04.02.05 9:26:00 AM
Yep that was it.
The pony had been left for a long time with no treatment so its back was ulcerated and within 3 weeks the coat started to grow back.
You wont need to put it in the ponies ears because you simply spray a big swathe and like most sheep stuff it soaks into the skin so the pony will be safe all over.
Our vet says its safe on ours but check with your own vet in case your pony has any problems that would affect this.Its not licenced for horses but if it was you can bet it would be around £40 a bottle
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : varkie
Date : 04.02.05 9:30:00 AM
I tried all the supplements, lotions & potions I could find, and absolutely nothing worked for us - plus I was nearly bankrupt!!
We ended up getting a Boett, and it was the best thing we ever did. My pony now goes in showing classes every summer - she is a traditional native, with a two foot long mane, and a tail to the floor. None of the judges ever know she has sweet itch.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : OP
Date : 04.02.05 9:34:00 AM
I'm going to try the vetrazine I think. No point asking the vet as this pony has never seen one - so we don't know if he has any problems that would affect him.
Thank you for all the input everyone.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Jude
Date : 04.02.05 9:46:00 AM
Thanks from me too Lesley. I dont want to use rugs either - apart from the fact the very inquisitive youngster (Welsh Cob) would be guaranteed to rip it to shreds - or his mates would. They never have rugs unless travelling.
The only thing I have found to date that works to any extent is the Net-Tex cream already mentioned by OP, which has saved his mane and tail mostly. The ears are the big problem.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : mel
Date : 04.02.05 12:34:00 AM
mine is a welsh cob an had never really worn a rug (he's 3) and he was fine in it. Nothing else worked though.
Even in his Boett he rubs. His tail is worse. i dont think the tail bit covers enough and his face is exposed too. also, i cant take the rug off or he gets stressed again. Anyone else found this?
Ears get scabby and bleed but find sudocrem works on those.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:12:00 PM
Mine gets more stressed with the rug than without, but is really not keen on rugs full stop.
Yes, they do manage to rub exposed bits anyway, in his case, he rubbed a raw patch under his fetlock.
It seems to me if I try Lesley's suggestion straight away and keep a close eye on him it my be worth a try. Would be nice to have an alternative.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : mel
Date : 04.02.05 1:21:00 PM
mine istrying the desensitisation vaccines this year.
But THE sweet itch vaccine which they are trialling still, sounds very hopeful. Cant wait!
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:22:00 PM
Benzyl Benzoate
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:23:00 PM
BB didn't work as efficiently as Lesley seems to have been with her stuff.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:27:00 PM
were can u buy vetrazine from guys?
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:34:00 PM
I would imagine any agricultural merchants.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:34:00 PM
I used Beelzebug, it stunk of garlic which put me off straight away but was so thick and greasy i cant imagine that you could possibly ride a horse with this stuff on,
Cant say it worked wonders either!
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:35:00 PM
sorry one more questions how much exactly and how often are people putting this on their horses/ponies and do u still put their rugs on too
sorry for so many questions but i want to be well prepared this year
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:52:00 PM
ditto above! i'm guessing as it's a sheep thing countryside stores like scats/countywide farmers???
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 2:02:00 PM
www.agritrading.net/animalhealth.asp
Look under sheep dips and pour on.
Can't make sense of the pricing structure though!
Vetrazine Pour On .8lt 27.02 Blowfly pour on for sheep 10 week cover
Vetrazine Pour On 2.2lt 51.11 Prevents blowfly only will not kill maggots
Vetrazine Pour On 5lt 86.98 therefore Dysect much better prospect and a
Vetrazine Pour On 2 x 5ltr 83.96 better price anyway.
Vetrazine Pour On 4 x 5ltr 79.96
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 2:04:00 PM
Vetrazine Pour On .8lt £27.02 Blowfly pour on for sheep 10 week cover
Vetrazine Pour On 2.2lt £51.11 Prevents blowfly only will not kill maggots
Vetrazine Pour On 5lt £86.98 therefore Dysect much better prospect and a
Vetrazine Pour On 2 x 5ltr £83.96 better price anyway.
Vetrazine Pour On 4 x 5ltr £79.96
Redone from above, hope makes more sense!
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Lesley @ Trallwm Farm
Date : 04.02.05 2:31:00 PM
I think you may be looking at the bottles for whole flocks.
I just got a spray bottle for £17.
I shall be vexxed if they now only do it in large even though I have a whole flock of sheep to do as well.
Once applied you shouldnt need and rugs or other treatment because the midges wont get near in the first place.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 2:44:00 PM
On the subject of Vaccine trials - I have read that they are looking for volunteers (horses and ponies!!) but you must be able to meet certain conditions, including taking the them to a place nr Wrexham for the jabs.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 3:01:00 PM
hi lesley could you please email me with the details of where u get this product from i have just spoken to my vets and they do not know of it used for horses and they are interested in finding out more they know its used on sheep for maggots and such like but not for the use of horses
id like to save my pony from the misery of summer this year
its clare.downerat olealliance.co.uk
thanks lesley xx
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 3:27:00 PM
www.agritrading.net/animalhealth.asp
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Lesley @ Trallwm farm
Date : 04.02.05 3:41:00 PM
I just get it from Carmarthen farmers so you could go to Scats or the equivilant.I dont think Ive got any left to check on but we have used it over a year and its been fine.
Sheep are usually susceptable to drugs and its ok on them as they get eaten so horses SHOULD be fine.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : JAM
Date : 04.02.05 4:57:00 PM
Well don't even both getting in touch with agritrading.net. I have just spoken to them. They were extremely surprised when I mentioned I'd like to purchase Vetrazine for a horse with sweetitch. Apparently after years in the equine business he's never heard of it being used on a horse. Furthermore he isn't prepared to sell in to anyone who isn't a licensed sheep farmer. He is prepared to send me a catalogue with other preparations specifically for horses!!! Probably useless at a far greater cost.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 4:59:00 PM
It's amazing what products for other animals can be used on horses safely.I use a couple of other products on min for various things.As Lesley said you can guarantee the price would shoot up if they were licensed for horses.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Fm
Date : 04.02.05 5:00:00 PM
There is a homeopathic remedy called Sweetitch 30c that you can order from Ainsworths on 0207 935 5330. They are very helpful if you ring and ask them for advice about that or any other problems.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 5:36:00 PM
Jan - I wonder if he has even an inkling of how much business he is turning away? I reckon this site was responsible for a huge increase in sales of Avon SSS in the last couple of years!
From :
Date : 04.02.05 8:36:00 AM
My horse has started rubbing and I've noticed someone else's on another thread. Any tips for preparation?
Does anyone have any experience of tackling sweetitch without resorting to rugs? I found the NetTex cream pretty good last year, but it didn't completely prevent it. I found Avon SSS didn't seem to keep the midges off. I fed Naf DItch, but not sure how effective it was as the sweetitch still happened.
Any homeopathic supplements that people swear by?
Thank you.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Lesley @ Trallwm Farm
Date : 04.02.05 8:46:00 AM
I dont use the gloopy oily stuff that makes them itch more.
I discovered vetrazine which is for sheep.Ok your pony will have a blue or green stripe for a few days but it stops anything coming near the pony and therefore no sweetitch.
You apply it once every ten weeks and at £17 a bottle its not expensive.Its great for around wounds to.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 8:50:00 AM
Thanks Lesley. I don't care what colour he is!
I'm just really not keep on using the rugs, for a start I think sometimes they actually make him itchy and another I have seen midges underneath them. Must be murder!
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Jude
Date : 04.02.05 8:59:00 AM
Ive just started having problems again too. My youngster (black) seems to attract midges much more than the other 2 (palomino & red chestnut) He always has swarms of midges compared to the others.
Lesley, can you use vetrazine safely on the hair inside the ears?
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : mel
Date : 04.02.05 9:06:00 AM
my sweet itch news letter came the other day. it said put the rugs on before midges, no later than march. but they are out already!
My boy was itching last night and i'm anoyed as i wanted to get his boett on before the midges this year. i shall put it on tonight but i'm already too late.
For me, i tried all lotions and resorted to a boett. must say, that is the best prevention i've found and i too didnt want to resort to a rug. But its saved a lot of hassle. My boy does get bad though, behaviour wise, if itchy. he just tears around like a mad thing.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : OP
Date : 04.02.05 9:15:00 AM
I saw on your website Lesley that you had controlled sweetitch in one of your ponies. Good stuff! Was that really the end of it? I can hardly bear to hope, but it would be great as he has actually grown a bit of mane now. Last year he rubbed quite a bit off, produced the bottle brush tail and a couple of bare patches on his neck and face.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Lesley @ Trallwm farm
Date : 04.02.05 9:26:00 AM
Yep that was it.
The pony had been left for a long time with no treatment so its back was ulcerated and within 3 weeks the coat started to grow back.
You wont need to put it in the ponies ears because you simply spray a big swathe and like most sheep stuff it soaks into the skin so the pony will be safe all over.
Our vet says its safe on ours but check with your own vet in case your pony has any problems that would affect this.Its not licenced for horses but if it was you can bet it would be around £40 a bottle
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : varkie
Date : 04.02.05 9:30:00 AM
I tried all the supplements, lotions & potions I could find, and absolutely nothing worked for us - plus I was nearly bankrupt!!
We ended up getting a Boett, and it was the best thing we ever did. My pony now goes in showing classes every summer - she is a traditional native, with a two foot long mane, and a tail to the floor. None of the judges ever know she has sweet itch.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : OP
Date : 04.02.05 9:34:00 AM
I'm going to try the vetrazine I think. No point asking the vet as this pony has never seen one - so we don't know if he has any problems that would affect him.
Thank you for all the input everyone.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Jude
Date : 04.02.05 9:46:00 AM
Thanks from me too Lesley. I dont want to use rugs either - apart from the fact the very inquisitive youngster (Welsh Cob) would be guaranteed to rip it to shreds - or his mates would. They never have rugs unless travelling.
The only thing I have found to date that works to any extent is the Net-Tex cream already mentioned by OP, which has saved his mane and tail mostly. The ears are the big problem.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : mel
Date : 04.02.05 12:34:00 AM
mine is a welsh cob an had never really worn a rug (he's 3) and he was fine in it. Nothing else worked though.
Even in his Boett he rubs. His tail is worse. i dont think the tail bit covers enough and his face is exposed too. also, i cant take the rug off or he gets stressed again. Anyone else found this?
Ears get scabby and bleed but find sudocrem works on those.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:12:00 PM
Mine gets more stressed with the rug than without, but is really not keen on rugs full stop.
Yes, they do manage to rub exposed bits anyway, in his case, he rubbed a raw patch under his fetlock.
It seems to me if I try Lesley's suggestion straight away and keep a close eye on him it my be worth a try. Would be nice to have an alternative.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : mel
Date : 04.02.05 1:21:00 PM
mine istrying the desensitisation vaccines this year.
But THE sweet itch vaccine which they are trialling still, sounds very hopeful. Cant wait!
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:22:00 PM
Benzyl Benzoate
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:23:00 PM
BB didn't work as efficiently as Lesley seems to have been with her stuff.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:27:00 PM
were can u buy vetrazine from guys?
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:34:00 PM
I would imagine any agricultural merchants.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:34:00 PM
I used Beelzebug, it stunk of garlic which put me off straight away but was so thick and greasy i cant imagine that you could possibly ride a horse with this stuff on,
Cant say it worked wonders either!
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:35:00 PM
sorry one more questions how much exactly and how often are people putting this on their horses/ponies and do u still put their rugs on too
sorry for so many questions but i want to be well prepared this year
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 1:52:00 PM
ditto above! i'm guessing as it's a sheep thing countryside stores like scats/countywide farmers???
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 2:02:00 PM
www.agritrading.net/animalhealth.asp
Look under sheep dips and pour on.
Can't make sense of the pricing structure though!
Vetrazine Pour On .8lt 27.02 Blowfly pour on for sheep 10 week cover
Vetrazine Pour On 2.2lt 51.11 Prevents blowfly only will not kill maggots
Vetrazine Pour On 5lt 86.98 therefore Dysect much better prospect and a
Vetrazine Pour On 2 x 5ltr 83.96 better price anyway.
Vetrazine Pour On 4 x 5ltr 79.96
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 2:04:00 PM
Vetrazine Pour On .8lt £27.02 Blowfly pour on for sheep 10 week cover
Vetrazine Pour On 2.2lt £51.11 Prevents blowfly only will not kill maggots
Vetrazine Pour On 5lt £86.98 therefore Dysect much better prospect and a
Vetrazine Pour On 2 x 5ltr £83.96 better price anyway.
Vetrazine Pour On 4 x 5ltr £79.96
Redone from above, hope makes more sense!
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Lesley @ Trallwm Farm
Date : 04.02.05 2:31:00 PM
I think you may be looking at the bottles for whole flocks.
I just got a spray bottle for £17.
I shall be vexxed if they now only do it in large even though I have a whole flock of sheep to do as well.
Once applied you shouldnt need and rugs or other treatment because the midges wont get near in the first place.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 2:44:00 PM
On the subject of Vaccine trials - I have read that they are looking for volunteers (horses and ponies!!) but you must be able to meet certain conditions, including taking the them to a place nr Wrexham for the jabs.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 3:01:00 PM
hi lesley could you please email me with the details of where u get this product from i have just spoken to my vets and they do not know of it used for horses and they are interested in finding out more they know its used on sheep for maggots and such like but not for the use of horses
id like to save my pony from the misery of summer this year
its clare.downerat olealliance.co.uk
thanks lesley xx
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 3:27:00 PM
www.agritrading.net/animalhealth.asp
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Lesley @ Trallwm farm
Date : 04.02.05 3:41:00 PM
I just get it from Carmarthen farmers so you could go to Scats or the equivilant.I dont think Ive got any left to check on but we have used it over a year and its been fine.
Sheep are usually susceptable to drugs and its ok on them as they get eaten so horses SHOULD be fine.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : JAM
Date : 04.02.05 4:57:00 PM
Well don't even both getting in touch with agritrading.net. I have just spoken to them. They were extremely surprised when I mentioned I'd like to purchase Vetrazine for a horse with sweetitch. Apparently after years in the equine business he's never heard of it being used on a horse. Furthermore he isn't prepared to sell in to anyone who isn't a licensed sheep farmer. He is prepared to send me a catalogue with other preparations specifically for horses!!! Probably useless at a far greater cost.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 4:59:00 PM
It's amazing what products for other animals can be used on horses safely.I use a couple of other products on min for various things.As Lesley said you can guarantee the price would shoot up if they were licensed for horses.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From : Fm
Date : 04.02.05 5:00:00 PM
There is a homeopathic remedy called Sweetitch 30c that you can order from Ainsworths on 0207 935 5330. They are very helpful if you ring and ask them for advice about that or any other problems.
Subject : re:- Sweetitch preparation
From :
Date : 04.02.05 5:36:00 PM
Jan - I wonder if he has even an inkling of how much business he is turning away? I reckon this site was responsible for a huge increase in sales of Avon SSS in the last couple of years!
?? No.