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Post by sophy on Oct 20, 2014 18:02:03 GMT 1
Has anyone else seen the new laws about dangerous dogs? There are a couple of areas which are worrying me in particular. You can now be prosecuted if anyone even if someone thinks your dog might bite them! Also if someone is bitten on your property. What if your dog bites an intruder or defends you if you are attacked? Seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut to me.
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Post by jackiedo on Oct 20, 2014 18:31:59 GMT 1
YEP I've seen them and saw the draft too. If your dog bites an intruder or defends you when you are attacked unless it is dangerously out of control (You can't get it off if you try) you are not likely to be prosecuted. If you invite a child round to play and your dog attacks them because you don't keep it out of the way, or bites the postman etc you will. It's a follow on from the dog killing the child who was visiting and another one who killed a sleeping baby. It's to make owners more accountable. If anyone broke in here and attacked me I would expect my dog to defend me, That is natural behaviour. When my small grandson comes he can be a bit much, if I left him alone with the dog and it attacked him (although it never has shown any signs)that would be my fault and I should expect to be accountable
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Post by sophy on Oct 20, 2014 23:07:08 GMT 1
I know why the new laws have been brought in and obviously there are some people around who should never have a dog! However, I know some people who would think a dog was about to attack them if they so much as look at them! I am glad I do not own a dog at the moment as I would be scared of walking it now. For instance, one of my neighbours has a JR who barks at strangers. This could be seen as frightening by some people. Is it really enough to get his poor owner prosecuted though?
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Post by heidi on Oct 21, 2014 0:09:30 GMT 1
The cat chasing bit is a bit much too! There is a Tom cat that visits our farmyard and sprays everywhere including horse rugs and jackets hanging on stable doors. I have never tried to stop Elmo chasing him, as we wish he would stay away!!!
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Post by jackiedo on Oct 21, 2014 18:17:39 GMT 1
sophy as with anything people can allege what they want but to get a successful prosecution there has to be evidence
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Post by sophy on Oct 21, 2014 22:03:53 GMT 1
What worries me though Jackiedo, is that you can apparently be prosecuted for your dog frightening someone into thinking they were going to be attacked. How do you prove that? I am afraid I foresee trouble brewing
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Post by anastasia55555 on Oct 21, 2014 22:13:08 GMT 1
Something we have talked about at college and no doubt will continue to. As far as I can see the attacking someone on your property is in regards to postman or someone you have invited in rather than someone intruding. And in terms of the other point it states dog dangerously out of control rather than a dog just barking at someone, more of intent on causing harm. It's hard to get things perfect I guess but I see it as being positive as it isn't just concentrating on specific breeds, it applies to all dogs of all shapes and sizes.
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Post by portiabuzz on Oct 21, 2014 23:58:15 GMT 1
I do find it worrying..
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Post by antares on Oct 22, 2014 12:19:52 GMT 1
Doesn't apply here in NI and I doubt the executive would adopt it but I'll be keeping my eye on it just in case
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 19:33:47 GMT 1
Its wide open to abuse by dog hating busybodies and nasty neighbours
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Post by portiabuzz on Oct 23, 2014 20:53:31 GMT 1
True . Scary !
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Post by julz on Nov 22, 2014 11:56:48 GMT 1
Also doesn't apply in Scotland, so,.... quick everyone upsticks to Scotland or NI
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