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Post by loubylou on Dec 20, 2011 20:34:16 GMT 1
After doing a good job sorting Uva's feeds out so that they are molasses free and high fibre I found out the other day in the tack shop that the nuts that I use in her decahedron ball actually have molasses in! (I bought them on recommendation of someone in there who said they were molasses free and I didn't check!!)
Unfortunately a lot of the big names do not list the ingredients of their cubes on their website, so could anyone point me in the direction of a cube, something high fibre or similar, that I can put in her ball that is going to continue our healthy diet that I have been trying to uphold! (have noticed a huge difference in her excitability having removed molasses from her feeds)
Is there even such thing as a molasses free cube?? Is there anything else I could put in her ball?
Preferably something that is easily available (off the shelf in local tack room would be great if possible!!) and less than £10 a bag would be brilliant!
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Post by ladyndibs on Dec 20, 2011 21:09:19 GMT 1
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Post by loubylou on Dec 20, 2011 21:14:18 GMT 1
Thanks, I want the cubes to go in a treat ball so the happy hoof isn't suitable, but maybe I should look at their nuts. From what I have looked at looks like nearly all the cubes have molasses in as a binder, so suppose its about finding one with the least in! Imagine the horse treats I give her will have molasses in too!! Thanks for posting those- I know I can get both off the shelf in Alkham so thats a bonus
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Post by ladyndibs on Dec 20, 2011 21:23:39 GMT 1
Where abouts are you? My horses are almost next door to Alkham shop. I buy the ordinary horse and pony cubes and use them for just about everything, as a treat in my pocket, disguise for wormers, treats in a ball and even sometimes as feed but having looked again the one I have been buying has 16% starch whereas the high fibre only has 10% so I might be moving over though my boy doesn't get excited on what he has and it doesn't take much to set him off lol.
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Post by loubylou on Dec 20, 2011 21:27:13 GMT 1
I am in Ewell Minnis so a little further along, was opposite the shop this time last year but moved to my current yard in January (was at Coombe Farm for a few days this month but moved back!)
The cheap ones in the white and red bag? Thats what I have at the moment, but think i may swap over to plain high fibre ones when I get my next lot of feed. However, she seems calm enough so am wondering if its not broke maybe I shouldn't fix it! (plus they are much cheaper!)
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Post by ladyndibs on Dec 20, 2011 21:53:21 GMT 1
I get the spillers, green and yellow bag, non heating pony nuts atm about £8.50 a bag, though most feed merchants don't put exact ingredients on the bag/web site you can sometimes get an idea from the amount of digestable energy. How much is a bag of the cheap ones and what make are they, as you can see I use them as treats mainly so they only get a few so unlikely to make much differance. We are in the gateway just Alkham side of the shop, the metal gate, if there's a green truck there feel free to say hello it would be nice to put a face to the name
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Post by jes on Dec 20, 2011 21:56:07 GMT 1
Spillers high fibre cubes do have molasses in them, they are about 10% starch and something like 4.5% sugar from memory, however having said that I do use them for treat balls and as a sprinkle on my horses feeds to make it tasty (literally a handful). Also I think just about every mixed cube will have molasses as they use it as a binder. If your horse is ok with alfalfa what about Dengie alfalfa pellets, they are literally just pure alfalfa and nothing else. My two love them!
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Post by june on Dec 20, 2011 22:07:50 GMT 1
I use Top Spec FibrePlus for treat balls. They aren't completely molasses free but are very low sugar and suitable for laminitics.
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Post by loubylou on Dec 20, 2011 22:10:45 GMT 1
They are £5.99 a bag and are unbranded. Not sure 100% what the ingredients are to hand but it is all listed on the bag. Uva loves them, and will choose to work for her feed out of her feed ball than eat anything else I put out for her which is a good sign! Will keep an eye out for the truck Wasn't 100% sure that was where you were, but Deb did say when Silky moved so have kept an eye for her but not seen her. Uva was silly on Hifi and Alfa A so cut them out and am now feeding her top spec light and will be speedibeet as of this week. Not sure if it was molasses or something else that caused her to fizz, but will consider those as they are molasses free. However, I do feed them just like you do- a small scoop in her treat ball and a handful in the top of her dinner (and even that will stop when the speedibeet goes in!!) so wondering if maybe I should just stick with what I have if it is not fizzing her up! Will look at top spec, I do love their chop
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Post by shan on Dec 20, 2011 22:39:09 GMT 1
Would the amount of sugar she gets in a handful of nuts make much difference? I try to feed everything sugar free too, but as grass and veg have sugars in I don't really bother about a small amount in feeds, as Sandy only has a daily handful of nuts too with some sf chop
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Post by Susan on Dec 20, 2011 23:53:48 GMT 1
We use Badminton Fibre plus nuggets for treats and I have used them in treat balls. June also uses these. I cant see on web site if they actually use any mollasses Typical Analysis: Fibre Plus Nuggets Protein 7% Oil 2.5% Fibre 21% Ash 6% DE 8.5 MJ/kg Workload Low - Medium
Might be worth a email to ask. Although note due to xmas close they might not answer till after xmas break.
Cheap as well. Good in feed balls.
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Post by june on Dec 21, 2011 0:24:02 GMT 1
The Badminton Hay Replacer pellets have some molasses in too but like the Top Spec FibrePlus, not very much. They are too big to fit in most treat balls though but great for clicker training.
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Post by ruthp on Dec 21, 2011 9:40:22 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2011 11:09:14 GMT 1
I use Top Spec FibrePlus for treat balls. They aren't completely molasses free but are very low sugar and suitable for laminitics. I've just looked on their website to double check this as I was certain their website used to say they were molassess free (it doesn't now). I'll be very disappointed if they've started adding it to make them more popular.
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Post by Susan on Dec 21, 2011 13:52:39 GMT 1
June what do you think to these hutp://www.dengie.com/pages/products/additional-products/alfalfa-pellets.php
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