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Post by 2 bays & a grey:D on Dec 14, 2011 10:48:52 GMT 1
when we are helping them.
Because Nancy has been in 24/7 the past week she has been grumpy (understandably) and when I stroke her her ears have been going back. I read this as her being sore in the muscles. The other night when I brought the bridle out she went to the back of stable, when she does this I turn away from her and she comes to me, but the other night was different, she just stayed there, so, I went to her and bridled her, did a small lunging session to warm her muscles and took her back to the stable, tied her up ready to perform my 'Masterson Technique' (which she loves) and as I was getting ready to stretch her front leg she turned to me and started licking me. We stayed like this for about 5mins.
It was lovely. I read this as her saying thank you for listening and helping her relax.
I may be wrong in this assumption but I want to believe she 'knew'. The next day she was much warmer with me.
Do you think they 'know' when you are doing good for them?
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Post by horsefeed on Dec 14, 2011 11:23:48 GMT 1
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Post by Mellymoo on Dec 14, 2011 11:41:23 GMT 1
I think they do. Jos is very tolerant of me touching sore bits, and will let me do first aid and the like, but is not tolerant of others attempting it. He also knows that if mummy is there he is OK, so he calms right down and lets me do all sorts with him; for example, he was scared in the field and was galloping about - YO couldn't catch him, so she txt me and I stormed down to rescue him; he came right over, stuck his head in his headcollar, and was stuck to my side until we got to the yard.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2011 12:17:18 GMT 1
No! Talin certainly didn't show any gratitute to Lorna last time she came out as he was trying to push her and me about and stomped on her foot good and proper.
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Post by bonniesmum on Dec 15, 2011 12:48:06 GMT 1
I got kicked for my efforts in massaging Bonnie's tight hamstrings!
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Post by 2 bays & a grey:D on Dec 15, 2011 13:41:21 GMT 1
I got kicked for my efforts in massaging Bonnie's tight hamstrings! the masterson method is NON invasive, therefore no prodding and poking sore muscles- hence why I much prefer it to massage/physiotherapy as I wouldn't like someone poking my sore muscles either- it bloomin hurts!! I have one very very relaxed horse at the end of a session who doesn't anticipate being hurt further, so therefore enjoys it ;D |
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Post by bonniesmum on Dec 15, 2011 13:43:23 GMT 1
the masterson method is NON invasive, therefore no prodding and poking sore muscles- hence why I much prefer it to massage/physiotherapy as I wouldn't like someone poking my sore muscles either- it bloomin hurts!! I have one very very relaxed horse at the end of a session who doesn't anticipate being hurt further, so therefore enjoys it ;D I hadn't heard of this up until a few days ago on here so I might have to do a little research. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2011 13:44:50 GMT 1
the masterson method is NON invasive, therefore no prodding and poking sore muscles- hence why I much prefer it to massage/physiotherapy as I wouldn't like someone poking my sore muscles either- it bloomin hurts!! Massage done properly is not "prodding and poking" and it shouldn't hurt, it should be a release. |
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Post by 2 bays & a grey:D on Dec 15, 2011 13:56:11 GMT 1
the masterson method is NON invasive, therefore no prodding and poking sore muscles- hence why I much prefer it to massage/physiotherapy as I wouldn't like someone poking my sore muscles either- it bloomin hurts!! Massage done properly is not "prodding and poking" and it shouldn't hurt, it should be a release. Well, I have had both practices done on my horse and the difference both emotionally & physically after the Masterson Method was astounding that I will now not use any other method. I had a very good physio down south but, there has to be some physical probing to release the muscles. There is no physical probing to release muscles with the MM, and it goes much deeper than any massage/ physio could. |
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Post by bonniesmum on Dec 15, 2011 14:50:34 GMT 1
Just to clarify in case anyone thinks I was prodding and poking, the massage I was shown involved me running my open hand down the hamstring with the 'v' between my thumb and fingers running down the muscle. It had some pressure but was a smooth run down the muscle not a prod or poke.
Sometimes she seemed to like it but on one occasion I obviously p'eed her off
With Bonnie though everything I do is compensating for what I believe is some degree of discomfort in her fronts where she still lands toe first. That is something we are working on holistically with diet, exercise, my EP and vet.
The osteo did say to me that massage would relieve the immediate tightness to allow her to step through more easily but that pole work etc would also help and that getting her to 'work' properly would be the best long term solution.
I don't think anything I do with training or massage or anything else will 'cure' her until we get her feet sorted
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Post by KoLaTo on Dec 15, 2011 23:03:50 GMT 1
I'm with you there Bonniesmum, i've had physio, osteo, chiro and masterton for my young lad. One of the massage techniques is exactly how you describe on the hamstrings, my lad was so tight he was like a guitar string back there but he does actually like me massaging them although you have to be quite firm as he is very ticklish.
We also think his back problems stem from weighting his back end too much because of sore fronts, he is now in front shoes as our last experiment to see if they work, much against what i like but with agreement from my DAEP, all mine are barefoot and always have been but after 3yrs of him not being 'right' it is a last resort and so far it is actually working................
2bays - the masterton technique is lovely isn't it.
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Post by wozzer on Dec 15, 2011 23:25:07 GMT 1
I went on a course to learn the Masterson technique, after a friend of mine used my neds as case studies - I was so impressed! The horses react so well to this gentle method and clearly enjoy it. Mine fall asleep afterwards! xx
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Post by 2 bays & a grey:D on Dec 16, 2011 9:17:32 GMT 1
Masterson method is soooo relaxing for them that yes they do fall asleep and if you look closely you can see the muscles dropping and relaxing in certain places.
My belief is long muscles are relaxed muscles.I hold a lot of tension in my shoulders and everynight I roll over backwards to stretch all my back muscles, since doing this I don't get knots.
I have had physio for a frozen shoulder so I know physio works but it isn't a permanent solution, you haveto look after the muscles and keep them long. Thats why I believe in the MM so much. In all honest its the method that has worked the best for Nancy and I can really see the difference in her, I suppose its like pilates.
I am going to do the course next year as I love performing it and seeing Nancy yawning, licking & chewing & yep falling asleep ;D
MTA- Kolato, I had to have shoes on Nancy's front for the same reason. My MM worker actually noticed how she was standing a certain way to alleviate pain in her fronts. She has been much better since.
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