eden
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Post by eden on Dec 12, 2011 21:47:22 GMT 1
Vicky is the worst she has been this year, she starts of lame all around if I school or have a lesson I just do walk trot canter on a long rein first before I ask anything from her. Just feel this year she needs a little help, Have seen so many things on the market, I was thinking maybe bio flow boots? or a supplements? she is out everyday 6.00 till 6.00 and ridden 4 to 5 times a week.
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Post by Katieleeown on Dec 12, 2011 21:51:52 GMT 1
Amer is having 'no-bute' liquid and turmeric at the mo - no the no bute is in her system it seems to be helping alot! she was trotting about the field tonite - before she would walk slowly to us.
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Post by curlytobiano on Dec 12, 2011 21:55:34 GMT 1
Hi - my boy Harry has arthritis but not as bad as your Vicky sounds. If he has been stabled or inactive we just lead him round in hand for 10 mins before work and that loosens him up a bit. I have bought some 'no bute' but not really needed to use it yet. Good luck.
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Post by shan on Dec 12, 2011 23:30:39 GMT 1
You can also try;
Magnetic boots, heat pads, homoeopathic Rhus Tox, cider vinegar, and keep sugars as low as possible in her diet.
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Post by kizi on Dec 12, 2011 23:59:38 GMT 1
I take rus tox for myself and it's brill! Ha I have an old mare who is not on 'buteless' maintenance dose and she needs it but it's enough to keep her comfy, she's retired tho. Never thought of giving her rus tox ha!! Must see can I get bigger quantities, actually must put myself back on it....have been lazy and taken pain killers instead. Arthritis sucks and makes me and my mare too depressed and miserable, I would def agree she needs something to help! This time of year anyway, I also found early on with ginger that cortavet with added vit e supplement really helped. Soon as I started her on the vit e (she'd already been on cortavet) she was feeling great, it was vit e and something, can't remember as it was a few years ago. She's been retired as a result since she was about 17, so it's great for your girl that she's still working, I regret not keeping our mare in light work now that I know first hand that exercise helps! But then some days I just can't face it!!!
Good luck with her!!! Sounds like a well loved horsey!
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Post by Yann on Dec 13, 2011 0:44:55 GMT 1
Turmeric is well worth a whirl, as would be a decent joint supplement. My two get both and it seems to be keeping them going, and I find turmeric capsules keep my aches and pains at bay too. The other thing that can help is using leg wraps in the stable, helps keep the chill out.
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Post by jes on Dec 13, 2011 6:59:32 GMT 1
Feedmark extra flex HA, MSM and Devils claw have made a big difference to my gelding this winter.
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Post by nich on Dec 13, 2011 9:58:19 GMT 1
I have just taken Autumn off buteless, and on to a regime of turmeric and bioflow boots all round at night. she lives out. I do not school her - no work on circles - and she happily carries my 6 yr old neice on hacks, or work in walk/trot in the menage, but not real schooling. why put the pressure on degrading joints - sorry to sound harsh, but thats what vets have adviced me for arthritis - gentle work not on circles.
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Post by specialized on Dec 13, 2011 11:25:14 GMT 1
Bioflow boots overnight if stabled will help. All the 'no bute' remedies are based on Devil's Claw, but you can buy the Devil's Claw on its own much more cheaply in powder form and it is very effective.
For arthritis, anti-inflammatories are generally more effective than joint supplements as it is bone changes rather than cartilage that needs addressing, however there are often associated joint problems that will benefit from specific supplements.
A lot of it is a case of 'suck it and see' as one horse will respond to some treatments better than others.
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Post by kizi on Dec 15, 2011 1:45:08 GMT 1
Ya I was amazed the difference the buteless made in my old girl, I had another old pony before that I tried giving it to and a small small quantity made her appear drunk...when the vet saw her come out of stable he thought it was her heart, which he then said sounded fine, I stopped the buteless-drunkness gone, and I have had others for which it had no affect at any dose.
It's all trial and error.
I have a 7yo pony retired with arthritis, which is an awful shame but retired he is very happy and sound, he just cannot handle anything about walk and trot in straight lines and just isn't a quiet enough sort for that.
With him raised heel shoes did help for a while, buteless did nothing, joint injections were not a recommended option and €1800++ worth of surgery had a 50/50 prognosis. He's happy and sound on 24/7 TO but to have it that bad on xray at 7......well.....day by day!!
If it was my horse I wouldn't be 'working through' arthritis, light easy work yes but def easing off if under pressure, but maybe I am over sympathetic because I know the pain of it.
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Post by specialized on Dec 15, 2011 9:31:43 GMT 1
Just thinking back, we had a young labrador that was riddled with arthritis at a young age (the vet thought the x-rays had been mixed up with an ancient dog they were so bad). After a short spell on expensive medication we switched her to a bioflow collar and green-lip mussel capsules and she lived an active life to 14yo.
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Post by kizi on Dec 15, 2011 10:48:49 GMT 1
Ya I have heard of other young horses who made full recoveries with bones fusing etc too and I look at this pony sound as a pound out in the field and think.....hmmm...but if I try him again and he's not sound it's my niece who's heart gets broken all over again!! There's plenty time but I saw the xrays myself and don't think he's the same as those that recovered. This fella had been a hungry youngsters that I only got 2 years ago!
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Post by lizr on Dec 15, 2011 10:52:53 GMT 1
Buteless High strength and a copper pastern wrap have sorted my boy out a treat. Hope you get her right.
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Post by eden on Dec 15, 2011 21:31:06 GMT 1
Bioflow boots overnight if stabled will help. All the 'no bute' remedies are based on Devil's Claw, but you can buy the Devil's Claw on its own much more cheaply in powder form and it is very effective. For arthritis, anti-inflammatories are generally more effective than joint supplements as it is bone changes rather than cartilage that needs addressing, however there are often associated joint problems that will benefit from specific supplements. A lot of it is a case of 'suck it and see' as one horse will respond to some treatments better than others. I have not seen the powder form will look into that. Thank you so much everyone, we did think it was low grade lami but its not thank god, I went in the school today and she was not lame ;D and they have had to be in the last 2 days due to the ground being so wet. xxxx |
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Post by jen1 on Dec 15, 2011 22:08:27 GMT 1
are you posative it is her joints, nd not somethin ike epsm, tumeric is worth a go,
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