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Post by arabheaven on Dec 21, 2010 11:40:50 GMT 1
£30 a week is cheap, wish I could find somewhere like that to not be on a livery yard!!
I have an acre worth of land, 2 stables and only 2 pallets worth of storage in the barn for £160 pcm (£80 per horse) I also pay and extra £20 a month for use of an outdoor school
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2010 12:05:48 GMT 1
I think it's a complete bargain!!
If you go to a DIY yard you won't get any more storage space and you'll pay more like £25 per horse, and you probably won't get free choice over when to turn out and how to manage your fields.
I looked at a yard very similar to that and it was £500pcm.
Many people do just fine with hay stored on pallets wrapped in tarp and tbh I really don't think you hay storage preferences are anything to do with your landlord!
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Post by taklishim on Dec 21, 2010 13:14:13 GMT 1
presumably when you agreed to rent it you realised there was little storage. I think it is amazingly cheap. Most people would give anything for electricity and nice owners who will help them out. As for fodder then you have the choice of hay and a tarp, getting a container (lorry container) and storing hay in there or buying bagged haylage which can be kept outside. I see you mentioned hay was £3.5 a bale. Round here it is £5 plus. ;D
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Post by rj on Dec 21, 2010 14:08:40 GMT 1
I'll go with the 'appreciate what you have got' advice too, despite the frustrations. We had similar arrangement & built our own hay store (just fence posts with recycled fence panels up to 6' with a hardboard roof covere din cheap felt til we could afford to put corrugated panels (also recycled) on. So concentrate on the positives and weigh up against the one negative. I for one would not think a Livery Yard was anything to yearn for!!!
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Post by anastasia55555 on Dec 21, 2010 14:35:15 GMT 1
palettes and tarp works well if you can get some pallets on top with padding on sides so doesnt rip tarp, and then a box or bale of straw on the top to make a pyramid type shape. Then pin the edges out with tent pegs to let air flow underneath. Also a double layer of palletes underneath, and weed membrane too will help. And dont store too much in one stack, 20-25 in a stack would be prob be a good manageable amount.
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Post by happysnail on Dec 21, 2010 14:44:27 GMT 1
Sounds like a good deal. Depends on where you are in the country tho.
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Post by lucia on Dec 21, 2010 15:11:35 GMT 1
£30 a week for all that!?!? Bargain! Pallets and a tarp will work. Count yourself lucky hay here is now £45 a big bale (will rise to £50 by the end of winter apparently) and I can only store two at a time as I didnt' get a hay cut this summer as we had so little grass we had to graze what we normally save. I pay £20 a week per horse, (I have 4) for stables, grazing, electricity/ water and use of a menage and consider myself very fortunate!
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Post by kathrine-epona on Dec 21, 2010 16:15:36 GMT 1
£30 a week for 2 horses is very reasonable. I think pallets and tarp would be ideal. The people who own the land are not making any real profit on £30 a week. Down my way, (south east kent) You would pay that per horse. There was a small (2 acre) field very close to my house and that was £20 per week, per horse. (T/bred & mini- shetland) The stables were very small, and tiny, tiny field shelter, thats made of rusty corragated iron. No electric, no storage, and crap fencing....
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Post by clara81 on Dec 21, 2010 17:03:51 GMT 1
I pay £60 per week for 5 acres with six stables and a storage shed with water and electric. Four of the stables are only big enough for small ponies though (my Exmoor is a bit squished). I have to maintain the fence (which is appalling) and the stables. I share with a friend who has two Welsh cobs and I have 3 small ponies. The cheapest livery in my area is £18 for a stable and grazing. I think the cheapest with a school is £20. Plus you've got to deal with other people and other peoples horses/dogs/kids which I couldn't stand!!
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Post by spring on Dec 21, 2010 18:16:03 GMT 1
Since it's so reasonable, would they let you build your own shed that you could store hay in? Wilkinsons have some really cheap ones and if you got a big one it would be loads of space to store your own hay out of the wet. just a thought ;D
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Post by lilaclomax on Dec 21, 2010 19:51:50 GMT 1
I also agree £30 a week is more than fair, that works out at only £30 more than the average rate of £100 a month per horse for DIY and as it has been mentioned you hardly get storage. Do you have a garage at home? The other option could be to rent a garage (£5 a week around here) or the free storage option of pallets and tarpaulin If you are concerned about the sudden increase rather than the actual price then could you suggest a contract? Modified to add if you are ever looking to move let me know I wish I could find somewhere like that around here.
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Post by gillee on Dec 21, 2010 19:59:31 GMT 1
Sounds good to me. Hay wise I am in a similar situation. I used to do the pallets and tarp thing but despite my best efforts found that unless you can keep the tarp off the hay completely then you do lose some, also the hay has difficulty breathing underneath.
I did some thinking and decided that a TENT like structure would be the best option!
I researched into this and found that Northern Tools company do a heavy duty `Shed in a box' which comes with a properly constructed sound and solid frame structure that the heavy duty tent is attached to - the poles actually feeding through channels on the inside. The whole tent is then anchored down into the ground securely with long anchoring down metal stake things (or whatever these are called).
The beauty of it is that you dont have the whole wrestling with going underneath tarpaulin (not pleasant when it's wet) scenario, as there is a zip up front which I leave rolled up to allow plenty of air to circulate. Inside I have pallets on the ground, with the hay stacked on top. I have positioned the tent accordingly to avoid any wet weather coming into the front.
The tent holds about 25 to 30 bales in all (depending on the size of the bales) but I tend to just keep 20 in there at a time as I prefer having some room to move in there.
A brilliant buy and well worth checking out, makes an ideal hay tent and looks really smart as well.
Price wise you seem to have a good deal going there. It sounds like that with regards to managing your horses that you can can do your own thing and make your own decisions which to be honest in my experience is worth its weight in gold and worth putting up with whatever else in not quite perfect. Hope this helps.
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Post by gordo on Dec 21, 2010 20:09:45 GMT 1
When I was renting my own place I had no storage so I went on www.freecycle.org and put a wanted out for a caravan to store hay in! Got one and it was fab, totally dry and lovely. Could look on ebay for caravan too.
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Post by lizzypeg on Dec 21, 2010 22:39:00 GMT 1
i also think thats a bargain.im in kent.rent a 4 acre field with 2 stables and no storage except the stables(them them as mine live out 24/7).does inc elec and water but i have to pay to harrow,roll etc. it costs me 250pcm inc the water and elec and i can keep up to 3 on there...
thats still cheaper than 3 on livery yard as locally 25 per week per horse in the norm with turnout restricted in winter.
hay round here has gone up to 7 pounds a small bale.think the rounds are 60 now too.. luckily i have plenty of grass so only needing to give haylege due to snow on ground at present.
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Post by Emily+Meg on Dec 22, 2010 11:37:56 GMT 1
That is very cheap. Also - you could get hay for £3 a bale?? WOW!
I am paying £4.50, and we are only allowed 15 at a time.
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