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Apr 12, 2009 19:59:50 GMT 1
Post by sundance on Apr 12, 2009 19:59:50 GMT 1
Here are some photos of the new horse who we ollected from the sanctuary today!
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Apr 12, 2009 20:02:01 GMT 1
Post by sundance on Apr 12, 2009 20:02:01 GMT 1
Sorry, only got one picture, will try again!
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Apr 12, 2009 20:06:09 GMT 1
Post by sundance on Apr 12, 2009 20:06:09 GMT 1
Maybe third time lucky? Success
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Apr 14, 2009 10:47:10 GMT 1
Post by Val (Toons&co) on Apr 14, 2009 10:47:10 GMT 1
Lovely horse, sundance, and what an interesting colour - I think that it's mealy/pangare (on top of being palomino that is).
Anyway, can you tell me what kind of diet he's going to be on? I've got two metabolic paints with vitamine E deficiencies and liver problems, which makes their diet quite complicated to work out (low starch AND proteins).
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Apr 15, 2009 18:55:35 GMT 1
Post by sundance on Apr 15, 2009 18:55:35 GMT 1
I have spoken to Jane Van Lennop from Simple Systems and she is familiar with this problem, says most Quarter horses are possibly sufferers from PSSM. He will be on high oil, low starch, high protein. So lots of lucie nuts, total eclipse and linseed. Also to avoid grass when sugar level is high and to soak his hay. The other alternative would be loads of oil and vitamin E and selenium supplementation. She has seen research from Holland suggesting that the fibre from the lucerne or unmollassed sugar beet metabolises well which avoids the need for as much oil and antioxidents and of course linseed is an excellent source of oil. The santuary got it wrong by reducing the protein, which seemed wrong to me and my other half (who has a couple of degrees in biochemistry). He really should have a very big muscle mass as a Quarter Horse and he needs the building blocks for this. He will also have exercise in the form of long reining and walking out in hand. I am glad to see him and my filly playing all day in the field. He does look to be an interesting colour! I have had palominos for 33 years but have never come across this brindle variety! I thought it was just where he was losing his coat, but it looks like permanent stripes! I should have called him Tiger!
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Apr 15, 2009 18:59:31 GMT 1
Post by sundance on Apr 15, 2009 18:59:31 GMT 1
Just seen your bit about liver disease, omit the lucerne then! You certainly have quite a challenge with the metabolics for your horses!
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Apr 16, 2009 10:06:39 GMT 1
Post by Val (Toons&co) on Apr 16, 2009 10:06:39 GMT 1
Thanks sundance, I had misunderstood your diet needed to be low protein. Yes the management of my lads is a bit daunting but even more so the understanding of what they actually can have in terms of proteins. On the one hand I'm being told they need a low-protein diet and on the other (my vet is one who tells me this) that they can have proteins but they need to be 'high quality'. Apparently they can have alfalfa pellets but they can't have clover or nitrate-rich grass. This winter they had far too little 'quality' proteins seeing their current condition (getting better on "poor" grazing). I have also found they actually do better with some oil in their diet (in which I mix their vitamin E every now and then). I believe Tiger ( ) has the pangare pattern (also called mealy). Never came across this before and it is pretty interesting to find in a QH.
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Apr 16, 2009 18:39:38 GMT 1
Post by sundance on Apr 16, 2009 18:39:38 GMT 1
He will be on high protein, but this comes in the form of unmollassed good quality lucerne (alfalfa). I had wondered if the pangare pattern was a Quarter horse thing as I have never come across it before. I will ask about it on the general site as it seems to be very rare.
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