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Post by circusdancer on Jan 1, 2009 23:38:29 GMT 1
It's not difficult to thank drivers by one method or another and I'm probably guilty of overdoing it, just to make sure they didn't miss the thank. LOL
There is a lot of talk on this thread about horses/ponies "bolting". Let's be straight about this, if the kids referred to had been bolted with, they would hardly be likely to be later trotting around parked cars! When a horse is wired enough to bolt, it has no thought for it's own safety. So for the sake of clarity, perhaps the term "bolted" could be given some thought and perhaps downgraded to, say, "tanked off" for example.
If a horse bolts when you're on board, the best advice would be to bale out before you end up dead with it!
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Post by morwenstowstud on Jan 1, 2009 23:44:02 GMT 1
That's why I always say 'taking off' or 'running away'. True bolting is another thing entirely. No the running away isn't related to the riders in the op. By the sound of it they were just riding quietly and responsibly along the road, in winter, in hi viz gear. Whether they did or did aknowledge can't truly be said. They may not have, it may have been missed. I just don't feel it's fair to be so snipey on a public forum about someone the OP doesn't know, over something that is pretty minor. I'd just be pleased to see 3 well kitted out riders, riding well along a road.
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Post by ladynowak on Jan 1, 2009 23:50:17 GMT 1
That's why I always say 'taking off' or 'running away'. True bolting is another thing entirely. No the running away isn't related to the riders in the op. By the sound of it they were just riding quietly and responsibly along the road, in winter, in hi viz gear. Whether they did or did aknowledge can't truly be said. They may not have, it may have been missed. I just don't feel it's fair to be so snipey on a public forum about someone the OP doesn't know, over something that is pretty minor. I'd just be pleased to see 3 well kitted out riders, riding well along a road. But OP has made it quite clear that they didn't thank her, people make 'snipey' comments about drivers who don't slow down 'enough'.. so whats the difference? Its not something minor either, its people like that that make drivers not want to slow down in future.
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Post by circusdancer on Jan 1, 2009 23:50:20 GMT 1
To be fair, it sounds as if the OP does indeed know the adult involved, she stated that it's a member of this forum and as the OP was a front seat passenger, I'm rather inclined to believe that she had a pretty good opportunity to observe whether anyone thanked her driver or not.
I can see precisely what you're saying Morwenstud, thanks can be missed in the blink of an eye, but there are certainly times when riders are ignorant of their duty. I've experienced them too.
OP could have named the member of this forum, but she chose to highlight the situation first.
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Post by morwenstowstud on Jan 2, 2009 0:04:29 GMT 1
If the OP knows the person, then surely the mature thing to do would be to have a word with them, not b*tch on a public forum. Maybe the person has read this thread and doesn't realise it's them being talked about, because they did aknowledge and it was missed.
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Post by circusdancer on Jan 2, 2009 1:09:52 GMT 1
You could be right, but it's also worth discussing I guess, because it's not always well received.
There was a livery down the road from a yard I used to be on and one particular rider was horrendous behind the wheel. I'd had to wave her down several times, but the day she whizzed past me walking with Major, with a little boy on board. It wasn't a problem previously (AJ took most things in his stride), but the disregard for a tiny child and pony had me losing it.
I knew someone on that yard and so found out a little bit about the person I'm talking about. It would have fallen on deaf ears and I might have resorted to means a little bit shorter than rational discussion.
If someone reads this thread and recognises themselves, it might yield positive results, without confrontation and it helps other people reading it, that have no involvement at all.
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Post by wabuska on Jan 2, 2009 8:40:32 GMT 1
I think a tip of the brim or a wide smile and nod is easily done. I must agree with the sentiment of not targeting a member on the DG. What happened to PMs? Let's keep things impersonal. We can still discuss the topic.
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Post by ruthp on Jan 2, 2009 13:21:57 GMT 1
I share the view that as a rider you should always make the effort to thank and acknowledge riders. BUT, as someone who is trying to regain lost confidence and only just starting to ride out again, I also know that there are situations when my adrenaline gets a bit high and I need all my concentration on keeping things calm - so I might fail to wave, nod or smile occasionally. Not ignorance, just trying to keep things on track.
As my horse is also new to the area, and doesn't know the routes I also anticipate that there may be times when my horse naps - I have no doubt that we will overcome this, but it is possible she will mess about in the road, particularly as I will probably be giving off "Oh no, not here please" signals.
I have drafted a letter to my local parish mag thanking all the local drivers for the forebearance....
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Post by pinkpony on Jan 2, 2009 15:16:48 GMT 1
Maybe the adult did and it was missed. A raised hand takes a second, and could easily be missed. Surely no one can be expected to wave franticaly for 5 minutes just to make sure a driver sees? true true! I ride out with a girl from work sometimes. She has excellent road manners, but I admit half the thigs she does just dont occur to me lol! And I like to think I am polite and well mannered....
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Post by stormer on Jan 2, 2009 23:54:42 GMT 1
Can I just add that I encountered rather horrid experience on the roads the other day. I was driving, but as a rider I can see both sides. I had just picked up a supply of horse food, shavings etc from the local tack shop. The drive home is through windy lanes that, unless totally reckless, you cannot drive at speed. I will state now that I am a slow driver and more likely to irritate other drivers by my lack of peddle. Anyway, through these windy hedged lanes I spotted rider in the middle of the road in front of me, Id say about 50yards as I came around a bend. He, the rider looked bothered so I stopped the car and turned off the engine. As he approached I wound down the window to see if he was ok. The man gave me a load of abuse for not seeing him earlier, he had pulled into a wider passing point and said that I was not showing any signs of stopping. Well He was on a bay horse and he had a Burgundy sweater on that blended quite nicely with the hedges so I wouldn't have stopped. I explained that I hadn't seen him before he stood in the middle of the road, something that I would have done in his position to be seen. The amount of abuse that that man gave me was so uncalled for but if he was un nerved I understand it. I have ridden spooky horses out on roads and understand how stressful it can be. Nevertheless, I came away from that feeling extremely upset. Sorry for the essay.
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Post by stormer on Jan 2, 2009 23:58:34 GMT 1
Can I add that I know I am off point somewhat but manners are important from both camps.
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Post by izzy on Jan 3, 2009 14:06:53 GMT 1
Morwenstowstud---many apologies if i came across harsh in reply i am full of flu and feeling ***** but no excuse.I do not consider myself immature but this person would totally disregard mself/anyone else talkiing to her and many people come on here to rant/moan it isnt aimed directly at the afor mentioned person who i havent named now that wouls be immature.
Just something that got my back up at the time and always does.
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Post by cbc on Jan 3, 2009 15:29:05 GMT 1
Can I add that I know I am off point somewhat but manners are important from both camps. and thats it in a nutshell really. Even if the guy on the horse was stressed, his abusive approach to you does all horse riders a big disservice.
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Post by jes on Jan 3, 2009 15:43:03 GMT 1
Even when stressed it's possible to be polite and respect other road users and surely that's all it's about....respect, manners and just acknowledging other road users, whether drivers, pedestrians, cyclists or other horse riders. A smile, a nod, a wave, whatever is safe to do.
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Post by Oranges on Jan 3, 2009 17:45:41 GMT 1
Quite harsh this thread for the person who its about, maybe a pm better? I aggree that it dosent take much to be polite to drivers, and drivers to horses, but i think its a bit harsh just jumping on this person over a public board, for all you no it may have been a one off that they didnt aknowlage you. I usually try to be polite, but i have had incidents with cars, like the one i had a few months back where some idiot tried to run me off the road, i can tell you i wasnt polite to anyone else after that on the way home, which thinking back was a bit not fair but at the end of the day i'm only human. Would be intreged to hear the riders point of story, just out of curiosity
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