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Post by sunnylynn11 on Jan 3, 2009 16:46:24 GMT 1
Zico is very stiff in this cold weather, whats possibly not helping is that he''s having to live out at the moment due to another horse bullying him (thats another story!), so Zico has been in during the day & out at night. I had a lesson this morning and after gentle 20 min warm up he was still quite stiff, my instructor said its the worst she's seen him, towards the end of the lesson he loosened up. He had injections in his hocks for his spavins which have worked really well. I've never had him on a joint suppliment before & wondered if it would be worth putting him on one? Vet said bute but I dont want to have to go down this route until I really have to if possible. Just want something to make him more comfortable. Hopefully, it wont be much longer & he can have his stable back to go in at night
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Post by horsey2 on Jan 3, 2009 16:53:51 GMT 1
I really like feedmark extra flex HA, very reasonable and delivered next day for free, really helped loosen my boy up who gets stiff in the colder weather.
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Post by barbararob on Jan 3, 2009 18:49:26 GMT 1
I like the equine answers stuff - they do premier flex and premier flex plus but I find their 365 daily supplement to be really good.
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Post by tikkatonks on Jan 4, 2009 0:11:43 GMT 1
Another vote for equine answers. I compared the spec for their 365 supplement and Premierflex and although the maths is a bit of a faff as they (slightly misleadingly as obviously the quantity you feed is vastly different) quote values per kg instead of dose per 500kg horse the specs really are comparable with the expensive alternatives (top spec/cortaflex) and far cheaper.
I worked out 365 complete at about £7 per month each for mine if you buy the big quantity and Premier flex £10-20 per month depending exactly how much you give.
THey do one with devil's claw in as well as all the other normal joint ingredients.
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Post by Booze Fish on Jan 4, 2009 0:36:27 GMT 1
I currently feed my old boy (21 this year -OMG!!) Feedmark Equi-Flex on a maintainence supply, and I think its fab. He was on Cortaflex before that and tbh, I didnt think it was any good (for him) at all, I didnt notice any improvement in his mobility. With the Equi-flex, his movement is totally better and he's more willing to go forward and loosen up quicker. I was also worried about him being in over winter (he's out 24/7 in spring -autumn) as his mobility is fantastic when he's out 24/7. I really would recommend you try it, I bought a months supply in October, and I have already noticed a difference. Its also really good value for money!!! www.feedmark.com/Product.asp?ProductID=1&CatID=1&LangID=1(you might need to copy and paste this). I would also recommend ringing their advice line if you have any concerns or questions. Hope you find something!!! xXx
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Post by domane on Jan 4, 2009 10:37:28 GMT 1
I bought some of the Farriers Favourite from Equine Answers as it said it was only £20.99 for 50 days supply. When I got the tub, of course they were quoting for a pony-sized beastie and I had to double the dosage so it worked out at 83p per day for that!
Can someone tell me what the recommended dosage would be for Premier Flex for a 16.2 tb so I can do my sums? Thank you....
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Post by barbararob on Jan 4, 2009 11:26:08 GMT 1
www.equineanswers.co.uk/prodpage.asp?ProdID=4Maybe contact them for info on how much for your horse - I've got a 365 tub to hand which says 16-18hands 30-50g per day the premier flex plus which has hyaluronic acid and devils claw says 3 heped measure (50g) per day for the first 10 days providing 13000mg glucosamine HCL, 5000mg chrondroitin,7500 MSM and 300mg of hyaluronic acid per day. Thereafter feed one heaped measure per day as the optimum amount for for long term maintenance. For minimum maintenance feed half a measure a day. Individual requirements may vary and are best determined by observation - remember that is the plus which may be more than you need. I wouldn't be feeding a supplement with devils claw in unless it was really needed. hope that is clearer than mud!!
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Post by julz on Jan 4, 2009 12:08:55 GMT 1
there are loads of supplements you can try... but the problem is finding which one your horse will eat.
Try any of,
Codlivine (powder or oil) Cider vinegar Cortaflex HA (Powder or liquid) Soya Oil Linseed Oil
Or any of the above mentioned....
personally I would start off with something like Soya Oil, or cider vinegar.. if this is the first time he's had problems, then perhaps a "lesser" joint supplement will work, before he gets too bad, and needs a more extensive supplement.. then you have something to fall back on.. than if you start off with the more expensive ones.
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Post by sara on Jan 4, 2009 12:27:34 GMT 1
I feed my boy Equine America's Glucosamine and MSM. It is the same company that makes cortaflex. It costs £15 and lasts for 2 months
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Post by stybba on Jan 4, 2009 15:58:00 GMT 1
Ditto, same as Sara.
Having been through the complete range of Equine America's products, i have stuck with 10,000 Glucosamine + MSM.
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Post by jakeandbarneysmum on Jan 4, 2009 17:50:03 GMT 1
Cortaflex is really good. We feed it to both horses and the dog too. The dog (a springer spaniel) is quite elderly now, and relies on this to keep him mobile - if for any reason we stop giving it to him, the effects are apparent within a couple of days.
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Post by horsey123 on Jan 4, 2009 17:55:26 GMT 1
is he is in pain with is devles claw is great
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Post by jes on Jan 4, 2009 17:55:36 GMT 1
Sara and Stybba - do you find the 10,000 Glucosamine + MSM works as well as Cortaflex?
If so, that's a big saving!
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Post by sara on Jan 4, 2009 18:23:41 GMT 1
jes, not sure ass I have never used cortaflex! I use it mainly as a precaution as Lloyd is a big horse, and there will be more pressure on his joints than most horses, and he is in fairly hard work.
I didn't think there was much of a difference but during the summer I ran out for about a week and he was noticably stiffer
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Post by lilaclomax on Jan 4, 2009 18:41:17 GMT 1
I also like Bioflow boots, they can be used as multi purpose boots and left on for up to 12 hours on dry legs once you have got your horse used to them.
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