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Post by xx ponyclubber xx on Dec 30, 2008 23:27:49 GMT 1
can someone show me what pads are please has my horse has never sufferd with lameness so i dont no much about them ano i sound thick but i do no alot it just in lameness i abit unsound but weve all been there
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Post by horsey123 on Dec 30, 2008 23:57:19 GMT 1
if she is going to have her shoes on she needs to be sound on the soft or you are not solving the problem just masking it i have set you some bare foot links witch make very good reading also have a quick flick thur this www.hoofrehab.com/bootarticle.htmyou can just get some pad and tape them to her feet to keep her comfy util she has her shoes back on
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Post by BCD on Dec 31, 2008 12:19:01 GMT 1
Please keep open minded about barefoot and the shoeing. From my own experience I have a Fell pony who is exeptionally good barefoot, but by contrast I have a thoroughbred who cannot cope without shoes on the front as her soles are way to thin. .. I have compromised and she s barefoot on her backs which works very well.
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Post by cubic on Dec 31, 2008 12:40:21 GMT 1
she was fine at fist but then she went lame r8 1 shoe come off then the other came off and her regular blacksmith has been busy through xmas period so she hasent had them put bk on off i really dont no how to explane things guys but there 2 separte threats on one post haha hope that helps lol Was she lame before the shoes came off? Is she lame on one leg, or both fronts. Does she have back shoes on? The shoes are so old or the foot or shoes so poor that they've come off on their own, and you haven't had them attended to by a farrier/barefoot specialist, and you seem suprised that the horse remains lame? Surely farrier asap followed by the vet if needed seems the obvious route.
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Post by varkie on Dec 31, 2008 13:20:43 GMT 1
Now, I'm usually a pro-barefoot person, BUT there are exceptions I think. And this is one of them. Barefoot requires a lot of knowledge, and a real commitment to looking after them. Neither of which it seems to me, the horses keeper has at this point in time. As such, if the problem with lameness is the shoes coming off, then the shoes should go back on. If the keeper then is interested in barefoot, she can do some reading, and learning, and go back into it later on, fully informed.
The horse should not be currently being ridden, if it is lame - not sure from the posts, whether it is or not.
If vet believes the problem is the shoes, once shoes are back on, problem should be resolved. If not, then it needs full investigation. Not just buting.
Once horse is sound, work can begin. I would suggest that it would be sensible to do groundwork for a week or two before beginning to ride. Long reining or lungeing or inhand work or free schooling. That should calm her down a little before beginning work under saddle. It will probably be wise to continue to do some groundwork before riding for a week or so.
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Post by june on Dec 31, 2008 13:43:41 GMT 1
I'm usually pro barefoot too but in this case there are too many things to think about so in my view it would make sense to get the front shoes put back on and see if the horse is sound. If you want to take the horse barefoot at a later date then you/your friend needs to do a lot of research first and decide whether or not they can put the time and effort into transitioning the horse successfully. It sounds like the horse is just footy without shoes and putting the shoes on will fix it but hard to tell without seeing the horse.
Once the horse is sound I'd begin getting it fit with long lining. That way, if there are any bucks the rider doesn't risk falling off! After a few sessions of long lining, once the horse has settled down, I'd start ridden work in walk, progressing to trot and canter over 6 weeks or so.
On the pulling of the reins problem, first get the teeth checked and make sure the bit is comfortable. TBs tend to have small mouths so often find thinner bits more comfortable than thicker bits. Some may prefer a ported bit like a Myler either low or high ported comfort snaffle. Others prefer something like a Rockin S (www.bewithyourhorse.com) which sit very still in the mouth.
Once you're sure the horse is comfortable in its mouth, ride on a loose contact with one rein slightly shorter than the other. The contact has to be loose to do this otherwise you will be riding the horse bent. When the horse goes to snatch the reins, having one rein slightly shorter than the other will tip its nose. Horses prefer their eyes to be level with the horizon so when they snatch the reins and find the result is their nose tips, they quickly stop doing it. The rider needs to be consistent though. It isn't okay to let the horse snatch the reins one day and not snatch the reins another time. In bad cases it often works well just to stand with the horse on a loose rein with one shorter than the other and let them work it out at a standstill that the rules have changed. If you're consistent with this it will generally fix the problem quite quickly, and by that I mean over 3 or 4 ridden sessions.
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Post by xx ponyclubber xx on Dec 31, 2008 14:04:31 GMT 1
she was fine at fist but then she went lame r8 1 shoe come off then the other came off and her regular blacksmith has been busy through xmas period so she hasent had them put bk on off i really dont no how to explane things guys but there 2 separte threats on one post haha hope that helps lol Was she lame before the shoes came off? Is she lame on one leg, or both fronts. Does she have back shoes on? The shoes are so old or the foot or shoes so poor that they've come off on their own, and you haven't had them attended to by a farrier/barefoot specialist, and you seem suprised that the horse remains lame? Surely farrier asap followed by the vet if needed seems the obvious route. hi well , she wasent lame before they came off she is now lame on both legs and she doesnt have back shoes on x this is not my horse so i dont no the horses farrier
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Post by xx ponyclubber xx on Dec 31, 2008 14:10:57 GMT 1
Thank you for your kind post this is really helping i will try post a picture of her frog and hoof
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Post by milo on Dec 31, 2008 17:07:19 GMT 1
is the horse,living in or out, regarding sore feet after taking her shoes off, i suggest they be put back on asap as this is what happened when my friend took her horses front shoes off her horse was so lame she could hardly walk,once the shoes were put back on the lameness completley disapeared, so thats the first thing to do, then i suggest lots of turnout if shes sound to get rid of excess energy and then slowly bring her back into work, 20 mins at a time to start with just in walk and then slowly build it up until shes fit approx 6 weeks i think to get her back to being ridden sensibly,obviously if shes still lame after putting shoes back on get the vet out and make sure shes not got an absess brewing, tb's or tbx's can have really bad hoofs with poor condition and they quite often loose shoes quickly, so a good biotin supplement would be a good idea.
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Post by stybba on Dec 31, 2008 17:43:41 GMT 1
I don't know if I have understood this correctly, but you seem to imply that the shoes 'came off', in the sense that they fell off or were pulled off.
There might also be some damage to her feet if this is the case.
My suggestion would be that she needs a decent farrier who can help to repair any damage, and who turns up when needed, or go barefoot.
Neither option will be a quick fix, so I guess your friend's priority should be to get the horse sound before worrying about how to exercise it.
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