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Post by wendyihts on Sept 24, 2008 13:06:30 GMT 1
Just because he's put weight on doesn't mean the foot problem's not dietary related. There's particular minerals that can leave the skin open to to fungal and other infections if they're not in balance with everything else, particularly copper. I would also recommend trying to speak to Roger Hatch at Trinity Consultants to address whatever minerals he might need to help him get over this problem. www.justbespoke.com Cleantrax can be bought from www.equinepodiatrysupplies.co.uk, as can many other Thrush remedies. However, I'd strongly recommend getting a UKNHCP trimmer or EP-type trimmer to come out as they will look at this problem from all angles. Healthy frogs are really important to barefoot horses, possible even more of a success factor for them than for shod horses, hence why GOOD barefoot trimmers with a holistic approach have lots of experience fixing this kind of problem.
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Post by pd on Sept 24, 2008 13:48:19 GMT 1
Echo Wendy, there is more to this than meets the eye I think.
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Post by confidentgal08 on Sept 24, 2008 15:37:23 GMT 1
i have rang a bare foot farrier for a second opion.
In addtition to. i have re- googled thrush and found somthing which relates to what wendy has said, in addtion to barefoot i will be sticking him on some immune system support as what the link said, which i have not thought of.
so i will let you know how this goes
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Post by confidentgal08 on Sept 24, 2008 22:40:57 GMT 1
started on the dengie multi vits and minerals tonight (only thing they had for a little tack room as did not have time to travel around tonight)
Phoned up the barefoot trimmer thank kate1981, they were very helpful and have a positive vibe about this and cheaper than what i thought it was going to cost. not got space until a couple of weeks time but by then hopefully the vits will have kicked in and will have a bit more insight of how this is going to turn out. knowing my luck I will end up having the unseen or rare case. thanks for all the advice so far.
PD dont know how you ment that phrase "theres more to this than meets the eye" are you meaning the vit side or my SM capabilities ?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2008 8:36:42 GMT 1
Let us know how you get on, CG08. He's an interesting chap and I'm sure will have a different slant on things.
I personally didn't read PD's comment as meaning that you were doing anything wrong, more that these things are often more complex than they appear at first sight. I know from my own experience that, when I used a convential farrier, problems were seen rather in isolation, e.g. the foot has an infection, full stop. Since going barefoot and learning more, I'm understanding better that yes, the foot has an infection, but that you need to look at the horse as a whole to understand why he's not coping with it. That can be feed, that can be the trim, that can be something physical that's causing the horse to carry himself in a less than optimum way, etc. So no slur on you, I don't think, more that I would imagine PD is thinking along those lines.
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Post by CTW Equine on Sept 26, 2008 10:22:14 GMT 1
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Post by easyaspie on Sept 26, 2008 11:07:35 GMT 1
COG08: You say he's only a yearling, or just over? If you've tried everything then you haven't given anything long enough to work. To treat thrush effectively you need to pick a solution and stick with. In two very severe cases of thrush I've seen it took 6 months approx., for the thrush to fully clear up and the frog to start becoming healthy again.
But you should soak the foot in a hoof boot with some antibacterial / antifungal as often as possible and thorough dry it out before packing all the crevises with gauze soaked with sudocreme. I know some people who've also used Colodial Silver with fantastic success with absolutel terrible case of thrush where the horse was sore to even stand on his feet. You should do your research before using this option though.
If you really think that your horse has canker you should get the vet to diagnose, even if it means you having to pay for him on your credit card? Otherwise you will just be wasting time and money on potions that are not helping or clearing up what you're treating. If it's canker, thrush treatments won't work!!
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Post by coral22 on Oct 1, 2008 13:09:28 GMT 1
Hi, when i got my mare she had really bad thrush and the farrier suggested copper sulphate and vaseline mixed together and pushed as far into the foot as it could go and then plugged up with cotton wool. It was a very long time ago and a very old farrier but it worked brilliantly only had to do it once then when it improved regularly flush the foot with peroxide and once a week scrub with iodine. Obviously copper sulphate is not that readily available but as I was still at school I found making friends with the chemistry teacher invaluable, maybe you have kids or friends with kids that might be able to get you a small amount that way.
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Post by confidentgal08 on Oct 9, 2008 0:01:26 GMT 1
thought i would give a bit of an update on this
i have started vit and mins supplement and this seems to be helping with the healing , still been soacking in milton and the frog is getting stronger. started the thrush magic , this stuff really needs to be on sale here in the uk. it is amazing someone needed to scream this at me a lot sooner. ...... still not perfect but this is hardening inside out and looking like a frog again. got the farrier out on friday so will be able to see whats going on better then.
thanks everyone for the help so far fingers cross this carried on to improve.
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Post by mudlark on Oct 10, 2008 23:43:30 GMT 1
Just to add - i really love Redhorse's field paste for thrush - recommended to me by my barefoot trimmer Tim Mockford: www.red-horse.co.uk/fieldpaste09.htmhave a look at sole cleanse and sole paint too - great stuff, all natural, really works
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Post by confidentgal08 on Oct 11, 2008 0:19:18 GMT 1
Had another farrier look at his feet today for a second opion on how things are going and this is the first time anything has productivly come off the frog without hassle of getting around it somehow. it looks 400 times better than what it did 6 weeks ago. confirmed that it is definatly not canker pheww. still quite thrushy though but i ordered a couple of items from the us the other was thrush buster which i showed the farrier and he said to try that first, pack it in with cotton wool and see how this goes.
I think the vitiams and mins are playing a big part in this aswell. (wonder somtimes why did i not think of this earlier, but i think if you are constantly in termoil about something, you just cant see the woods through the trees). farrier is coming out in about 3 weeks time again to trim the rest of the remaining to do so he is taking another look at it then. so fingers crossed.
funny thing was i turned him out after with his trendy covers on his feet, as put stuff on and packed it with cotton wool, shoved a nappy on and vet wrapped it on. he looked lovely one black and the other in yellow!! poor thing he is soo good cant say that he has never been handled, he even lets my little boy pick his feet out. lol
just wish this would get better for him. hugs and kisses little titch. now very much convinced we are an the road to recovery this time.
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Post by confidentgal08 on Dec 27, 2008 1:25:14 GMT 1
thought i would write a litle update on the awful foot problem i have....... farrier came out the other day and things are looking to going on the right way. still not completly perfect but we are there. put him on the dengie vits and mins and bathed feet and sryinged feet out with milton a couple of times a week (i did slack for a couple of weeks admit admitdly and got told off by the farrier ) but he did say what ever i am doing to keep it going as a huge improvement .. yah. i did have a minor set back with a abcess at the back of the heel but meded really quickly . his feet are no longer brittle and are completly smooth esp. on the sole as this was crumbley. we still have thrush sligtly but this is now to the piont where it is now a milder case and hopefully as things are going as they are we will be rid of it by next trim. <<<< jumping up and down with joy<<<< yah yah yah i will get some before and after pics on here as well for all to see
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Post by greyanbay on Jan 3, 2009 20:52:54 GMT 1
Hi R & B , My arab gets this problem alot esp when wet i have tried all sorts of products but one i have found best is from the vets its called engermicin. Its for foot rot in sheep and cattle works wonders he all clear now. it reasonable about £10 a can.
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