lynx1
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Post by lynx1 on Aug 24, 2008 21:42:15 GMT 1
Hi my girl has been barefoot for a year now and goes well. On longer hacks, I ride with Old Macs. I have been having a part loan who is interested in full Loan of her. She is a lovely woman and I know my girly would be well looked after, but she insists on putting on front shoes. I really believe that with boots longer distances can be achieved. I have ridden her for 2-3 hours in her Old Macs, and no rubbing (although I do admit that her bulbs were a bit shiny - does that constitute rubbing). She wants to hack her out longer and is convinced that the boots will rub. The whole shoe not to shoe issue has seriously jeopardized the loan now, and she does not want to go ahead if she can't put shoes on her. I really don't want to compromise on the barefoot thing. Is there anybody here who rides long distance endurance with hoofboots and does not encounter problems? I would be grateful for some feedback. I hope I have not done the wrong thing by being stubborn with this. Love to get some feedback
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Post by fin on Aug 24, 2008 21:46:51 GMT 1
www.renegadehoofboots.com. Lots on there from American endurance riders in boots. Actually if you use gaiters or socks in the boots--ordinary hiking socks!--you can avoid rubbing problems even if the boots are worn 24/7, plus there are better boots out there than Macs anyway (I'm biased, they might suit your ned fine ). Do you really want to entrust your mare to someone who's already gainsaying what you want and who isn't even prepared to find solutions though? ??
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lynx1
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Post by lynx1 on Aug 24, 2008 21:58:33 GMT 1
Thanks Finn, I will have a look at the renegades. you are right, I am not really willing to comprise on the feet issue, maybe this lady is not for us. Out of curiosity, which boots do you use? Renegades? And thanks for the tip with the socks. Have tried gaiters, but I don't seem to be able to fit her foot in with them. I will give the socks a go. Thanks again, much appreciated.
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laura
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Post by laura on Aug 24, 2008 22:16:58 GMT 1
but she insists on putting on front shoes sorry but that would be sounding alarm bells for me ....... if you have confidence that your gal manages with boots and dont want her to have boots on then the loannee should listen to you !!! This is such a fudamental issue .... I certainly would rethink any loanee that wanted to shoe Bonney as I know she copes barefoot supplemented with boots as required. If she has evidence they have rubbed then maybe look at the evidence and be prepared to reconsider .... if there is no evidence than I would be VERY precise about the term of the loan contract .. ... pull out if need be if you do NOT want shoes on and do not feel that you trust loannes decision. Loaning is complex and I think you need to feel comfortable in doing so ... horse is still legally yours after all.
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Post by fin on Aug 24, 2008 22:19:56 GMT 1
We've got easyboot bares ATM, although I'm desperate for some renegades--except the beggars never answer their email. The site's useful though. The Bares are OK--except they've now really ceased to fit so I need to replace them (and at first they were awful to get on). I like them better than the Macs though, which always seemed to have grip issues. I used them more as turnout boots than anything, but when my horse was really ill with laminitis we actually used Macs continuously for four months with no rubbing at all. That was without socks too, but our EP swears by socks.....even very thin ones can do the trick if there is a rubbing problem We could never get gaiters to work either--too fiddly!
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lynx1
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Post by lynx1 on Aug 24, 2008 22:32:29 GMT 1
Thanks Laura & Finn, final decision made! I really was not comfortable with this shoeing business. This loan is not for me. Girly and I will do just fine on our own and without shoes. Thanks a lot for your advice. I was beginning to think I was unreasonable. PS: off to buy some socks for her tomorrow and will keep my eyes peeled for Renegades. Have a nice evening both
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Post by mandal on Aug 24, 2008 22:40:08 GMT 1
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laura
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Post by laura on Aug 24, 2008 23:07:29 GMT 1
thats ok lynx sometimes we compromise, sometimes we don't when we loan our horses out. If we have a basic belief on what we believe or know is best for a horse we own then any loanne needs to respect that............. weither that or we sell / buy. My Bonney is on loan at the same yard with novice owner . I was prepared to take into consideration the loanees lack of confidence with regard her bridle .... I knew Bonney went better bitless but loanee had no expereince of it and it made her nervous .... so we compromised and she got a myler combination. A year later she has realised after lessons etc that Bonney does go well on dr cooks so she is back in it. However I would not compromise on being barefot or on living out 24/7, the terms of the loan are quite tight as the loanee is so novice and does not have the knowledge required to make major decisions on management. Loaning is complex
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Post by nich on Aug 25, 2008 12:28:33 GMT 1
thanks for the tip about socks! i will try that as i can't get the cavallo gaitors to work/fit and stay in. i just worry that Autumn's sharp toes will go right through but we'll see...
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Post by fin on Aug 25, 2008 14:34:51 GMT 1
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Post by arabmania on Aug 25, 2008 14:51:47 GMT 1
Hi Lynx1 there are horses who successfully compete in endurance barefoot. many rides often indicate when it is suitable. your loanee sounds very much 'old school', before we knew of the benefits to the horse going natural. it would seem such a shame to have to put your horse back in iron when after a year he is going so well. my daughters horse, zac, has recently gone barefoot due to a naff farrier messing his feet up. they endurance but wont be competing again until next year. i am personally still in the thought process but have had my mares hinds removed. if its any help to you i could access someone who has barefoot horses endurancing successfully so that you could pass on positive feedback to your loanee ? ?
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lynx1
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Post by lynx1 on Aug 26, 2008 7:42:09 GMT 1
Lol Fin! Have a day off today and off shopping to Bluewater, and will see if they do hiking socks in pink frills.
Hi Arabmania, that would be great, yes please.
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Post by arabmania on Aug 26, 2008 7:55:11 GMT 1
Hi Lynx okay. bare with me
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Post by donnalex on Aug 26, 2008 9:03:52 GMT 1
Pennine Barefoot Trimming aka Bond Hardman and his partner compete Arabs barefoot and trims them as well. Could be the best person to ask. His ad is usually in the Farmers Guardian.
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Post by gemmamarygold on Aug 26, 2008 9:06:15 GMT 1
Lynx1 - if you're off to Bluewater can I assume you're in the South East? If so, let me know. I serve on the committee for the EGB South East Group and may be able to point you in the direction of people in the group who are competing barefoot.
I could also help advise which rides to do with a barefooter.
Gemma
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