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Post by sarahfox on Dec 29, 2007 12:42:01 GMT 1
Couldnt you replace the sugars with oils sue? and maybe feed more unmolassed beet? Whats the build up based on then? I wonder what SS reccomend feeding breeding/lactating mares on,probably ten tonnes of feed per day!I must admit that I cant see how you could keep the weight on with fibre feeds and linseed alone?
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Post by suzieq on Dec 29, 2007 13:00:13 GMT 1
I put Perdy on Baileys stud balancer before she got in foal this year, she likes it and it provides all the vit and minerals she needs without the caloroies, then if she starts to need extra calories I can give her pasture mix, I've used build up in the past too and Perdy loved that so its worth remembering as stud mix is about £2 a bag more expensive!
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Post by suewhitmore on Dec 29, 2007 13:02:12 GMT 1
I feed unmolassed beet. Horses with poor liver function can't break down complex molecules very well, they need sugars to maintain energy levels. Anyway, I am convinced that far too little regard is paid by nutritionists to breed specific requirements - did you know that nearly *all* research is done on either TBs or exmoor ponies?
The main problem for most pet horses is that they get too much high value feed and not enough space and often not enough roughage.
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Post by Silversons on Dec 29, 2007 14:58:59 GMT 1
June thankyou, I have a 16.3 irish sports horse thats in foal to my PRE. It looks like i've got a lot to be excited about!!!
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Post by janetgeorge on Dec 29, 2007 15:39:50 GMT 1
Varkie and Janet, what are you breeding? and Janet did all 14 of yours go to the same stallion? I breed pure Irish Draught and Irish Sport Horses. Of the 14, 10 are RID mares. 6 of those went to my stallion, Lady's Tralee Raj - and 4 to Kensons Aragorn who was standing here last season. The other 4 - a TB, 2 ISH mares and one Heinz, went to Raj. Next year they'll all go to Raj except the Raj daughters (3 of them) and I've got a couple of stallions in mind for them - all RID, of course, who are available by AI. I don't like my girls leaving home!
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Post by varkie on Dec 29, 2007 16:25:57 GMT 1
Red bag. *shudder* Not had one yet, but one of the reasons I worry so much about foaling. That and all the other hundred & one possible complications!!!
I breed shetlands. But this year I have my first 'big' foal due - out of the black section D mare in my sig, and by the bay PRE also in sig. Really looking forward to this foal.
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Post by june on Dec 29, 2007 18:10:10 GMT 1
Its certainly a mix that seems to work Clair. Hope you'll post pics when yours arrives.
Section D x PRE sounds really interesting varkie. Bet that will be quite sharp, but beautiful!
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Post by big e on Dec 29, 2007 19:16:32 GMT 1
Will you all be bringing in your mares to foal in boxes or will they be left out in the fields to foal?
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Post by big e on Dec 29, 2007 19:18:21 GMT 1
Are any of the mares still being ridden? Or are you exercising them so they are fit for the births?
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Post by varkie on Dec 29, 2007 19:21:48 GMT 1
Well I picked the stallion for my mare very heavily on his temperament, because my mare is quite sharp, he has absolutely fantastic temperament. He is what I would term quick rather than sharp - he is really the most wonderful animal - for all that he is an older boy, if his owner ever decided to part with him (she won't!) I'd be begging her to let me have him - I just adore him. I was really careful to make sure that the stallion has in spades what my mare needs improving - temperamentally, and conformation/paces.
All ours are in at night, under CCTV, and out during the day - under supervision! If I get enough notice, if I see them begin to foal outside, I would bring most of them in, but we have had mares foal outside - if that's what they prefer, then fair enough. I know at least one of our mares much prefers foaling outside, and no doubt will wait to be turned out to foal - and I'll let her, as that's what she wants. I just like them where I can keep an eye, and assist if needed - and I can't do that in a field overnight well enough.
My mare wasn't in ridden work when she went to stud, so hasn't been ridden in pregnancy - that's due to my injury - which is why she's been put in foal now anyway! She's been just free schooled in the early stages, a little light lungeing, and some in hand walking - plus she lives out 24/7 atm, so keeps moving.
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Post by big e on Dec 29, 2007 19:41:54 GMT 1
What about this stalion www.louellastud.co.uk/primitive_star.php Maybe a bit big for my mare but shorter backed and has sloping pasturns i didn't realise there were so many stallions out there ;D and this one is sort of local
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Post by xsamx on Dec 29, 2007 19:57:36 GMT 1
^^ I think he is gorgeous!!!
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Post by suewhitmore on Dec 29, 2007 20:01:02 GMT 1
Mine foal out, or if they so choose, in the run-in barn. This is because I haven't had stables for them to foal in. I work during the week, and the last lot of foals have all been born on a Sunday lunchtime when I have been there - dropped in front of my eyes halfway up the field - and the last two in front of visitors too. I think the mares prefer foaling when I am there, so are being very co-operative. My brood mares are not worked, but mares can be ridden up to about 6 weeks before they are due, obviously light non-stressy work.
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Post by specialsparkle3 on Dec 29, 2007 20:01:28 GMT 1
I love Primitive Rising stock----------he looks lovely, but you would get grey. Mine are always foaled inside with ct cameras, can't afford the risk of foaling in a field, I need to be there from the moment the waters break. I never, ever ride my brood mares, it hard enough getting them in foal sometimes, without risking losing them. I believe in a horse doing one job at a time, but many will disagree, if they're going to be brood mares, then let them be brood mares IMO.
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Post by big e on Dec 29, 2007 20:12:36 GMT 1
More questions, what month did you cover your mares? and how far in advance do you need to book stallions, swabs etc?
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