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Post by fin on Dec 28, 2007 21:22:55 GMT 1
Ah. Definately not good for long term use in that case Bugger.
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Post by dingbat on Dec 28, 2007 21:33:24 GMT 1
well - i guess we need to find out from them. should i email? ok, i'll bother them! consider it done.
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Post by fin on Dec 28, 2007 21:35:10 GMT 1
Lol! I was afraid to do it--I think half the feed companies have a price on my head ATM!
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Post by dingbat on Dec 28, 2007 21:42:13 GMT 1
i've sent an email. will let you know if i get a reply! something else that might concern me - it contains selenium. so does my general purpose supplement? could we be overdosing on things like this? i am asking because a lady on my yard is not happy with her horses hoof growth quality - she searched for info, and pics that came up pointed towards selenium poisoning. maybe shes just paranoid but shes swapped the horses supplement because that contained it. i am aware the likely source of overdosing would be hay but is this likely?
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Post by fin on Dec 28, 2007 22:02:05 GMT 1
Hay's pretty low selenium in GB generally I think....ours came in at 0.1mg/kg and I think it's possible to feed up to 0.6mg/kg of diet....I don't have the figures to hand tho. We looked at selenium poisoning as a possible source of JJ's prblems but both excess and deficiency seem to have similar symptoms! Although v extreme selenium poisoning can cause laminitic symptoms and eventually the hoof sloughs off, which is v interesting but ghastly all the same. The only way to decide whether it's safe is to know what's in the hay, I suppose, and work out the feed and the supplement as well. But I guess that feeding a high selenium feed plus a supplement might well be the major cause of selenium poisoning in the UK.....it's a minefield, isn't it?
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Post by dingbat on Dec 28, 2007 22:29:25 GMT 1
yep! i dont even know how much they are meant to have a day? i'm not sure it is that TBH but i'd be wary of doubling up on things like coming from all different sources. i didnt know if it was common in the UK or not. i personally dont know of anyone who has had problems but then most people dont know they have a problem until its too late!
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Post by fin on Dec 28, 2007 22:41:40 GMT 1
There is a sort of accepted standard of RDAs for horses by the National Research Council in America, but TBH they may not be right. I don't think all that much research has been done on horses
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Post by arabheaven on Dec 29, 2007 13:14:20 GMT 1
my local feed merchant was the first to stack it and sold tonnes in a week!! my two have been on it for a month now and its fab. it soaks in 30 seconds from small pellets to sugarbett type feed. they love it and its high fibre so i can use less hay/chaff and its nice and wet sovery palatable!!
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Post by gem on Dec 29, 2007 17:10:33 GMT 1
I was looking at this for diesel as its not really fattening but apparently more paletable and so he may tuck into it better, garlic doesnt worry me as ive always fed it and dont believe the garlic is poison debate
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Post by mellymoo on Dec 29, 2007 17:46:37 GMT 1
My friend feeds it to her oldie and TB, and they love it. They won't eat chaff or sugarbeet, but stuff Fast Fibre down no problem. Hamish has had a bit to try, and he liked it too (mond you, he eats everything so not much of a test there!) . The fast fibre is certainly less of a faff to sort that sugarbeet, if you have a tight timescale.
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Post by fin on Dec 29, 2007 19:28:14 GMT 1
Hmm....wonder if it can be fed dry? JJ definately won't eat anything too wet. It hink the other thing that would worry me is that if it is really little pellets and it makes up into a mash, it's probably quite easily digested. He reacted badly to SS alfalfa pellets which are made with alfalfa meal, but he's fine on alfalfa hay even though that's much much higher in sugar--presumably because it takes a long time to digest and hit the bloodstream, so presumably doesn't cause a glycaemic spike. Mind you, that's a problem unique to JJ I think! I bet H would like it tho....mind you, she eats woodlice, so she isn't much of a test either
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Post by rummi on Dec 29, 2007 20:57:15 GMT 1
well, my local feed merchant DOES sell it, althought she did say it is quite new to their range, so that's why i hadn't seen it there before!
Had a good discussion with her about fast fibre vs alfa beet.
I've decided to stick to the alfa beet, as I feel as a growing youngster, Bailey needs the extra protein, and as I only give a fairly small amount, the alfalfa doesn't cause a problem.
I DO think its a good alternative for those who don't get on with alfalfa. Price-wise was ok as well, £7 a bag compared to £6.70 for alfa beet.
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Post by joto on Dec 29, 2007 21:05:48 GMT 1
i'd be very warey of feeding any feed dry.My friends gelding almost died of choke after eating a few pellets of A&P calm and Condition dry. one or more swelled up in this throat. it was horrendous.
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Post by fin on Dec 29, 2007 21:11:35 GMT 1
I am wary--that's why I wondered if it was safe to feed!
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Post by joto on Dec 29, 2007 21:13:14 GMT 1
i cant see a lot of point in feeding this product. a decent general vit/min supplement or something like Lo-Cal if there not alfalfa intolerent , mixed with handful of chaff , would do the same job, surely?
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