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Post by gwenoakes on Jul 22, 2014 9:54:56 GMT 1
Is it best when a horse is pts to let the remaining one be with it after it has gone?
We have two horses, 1 is being pts this p.m. and that will leave one. Anyone had good results with the Lincoln mirros?
Thanks.
Forgot to add, the remaining one has been on her own for quite a while in her previous home, but been with us for about a year now, obviously with a companion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 10:13:34 GMT 1
Sorry to see this Gwen, hugs from me.
I haven't let a horse see another after PTS. I'm not sure if it helps or not really as when one moves yards they have to learn to live without eachother without an explanation. I'm not sure if showing them the body helps or not. Sorry I can't be more use xx
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Post by VeronicaF on Jul 22, 2014 10:18:06 GMT 1
So sorry Gwen, the vet said let ollie see Zulu when she was pts
he did grive though, kept calling her afterwards even though he seen her being pts and her body afterwards
I think it was about a week and his calls got less and less and then stopped but he has charm now
I think we grived together, he wanted my company more, and we spent a lot of time together ,helpe each other
the vet said its a lot worse if they don't see the body. but can only go on what happened with ollie
Zulu was burried in the field, ollie kept going to that area, and smelling it too, it was very sad
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Post by portiabuzz on Jul 22, 2014 10:24:24 GMT 1
sorry Gwennie Sent from my GT-I8160
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Post by VeronicaF on Jul 22, 2014 10:31:58 GMT 1
ps April was pts, ollie and Zulu were not paired with her, Zulu didn't even like April, they didn't see her body or her being pts but Zulu was very effected, very stressed out, I think it was because she sensed it all. ollie wasn't bothered but the days afterwards all of them felt the loss of her,even the mini's, it was very solum for a while.they call in the morning for breakfast, there was none of that for a few days, it was horrible.
I don't know if I am helping? I think its like us, you can't escape greif, its something we all have to go through and as days go by it gets less hard
I have lost two this year my heart goes out to you, big hugs!!and lots of love going out to you!! its the hardest part
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Post by antares on Jul 22, 2014 10:50:00 GMT 1
Really sorry to hear this Gwen
When I had my old boy pts I had him done in front of the others, this was for his benefit really as he suffered terrible separation anxiety in his latter years and he would have been very upset if they were not close by.
Once he fell I let the others see him, they had a sniff, Antares actually nipped him on the quarters and then they went away. I put them in a different part of the field then until the body was collected.
When my Shetland pony died suddenly, he was in a different section of the field to the others - they knew and ran to the gate to try and get to see him, one jumped the electric fence. I let the others through, again they came over and sniffed him. Antares was only young, two I think, and hung around / kept coming back for a while nudging him but after half an hour or so they were all away at which time I put them into the other part of the field again.
I would always let the others go over and look /sniff if they want to.
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Post by ruthp on Jul 22, 2014 11:05:18 GMT 1
So sorry Gwen. It's really hard.
Like others, when Rosa was pts Bali was there and she wandered over for a good look at the body. Rosa was buried in the field that morning, and Bali was quite distressed when she saw the body being moved, but otherwise seemed to accept what was happening.
Just be aware that just because a horse has been on its own before, doesn't mean it will be ok on it's own again. When I bough Rosa she was on her own, but I kept her with three others for four years before we moved here. I always planned to get her a companion, but I had to move rather faster than I intended as she was absolutely frantic by herself in a new place.
Hope all goes as peacefully as possible this afternoon.
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Post by bertie666 on Jul 22, 2014 11:23:22 GMT 1
Mine and another were only about 15 feet away when we had one pts after a terrible accident - mine went and had a really good sniff and poke at the body, the other mare wouldn't go anywhere near and took off to the far side of the field as soon as she was let go - and was still stood there the following morning. I dosed her with rescue remedy and a warm mash with tasty things in and she started moving about after that. I think id give them the option - least then they know. Also rescue remedy 20 mins before and several times after at intervals seems to help
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Post by Serenbean & Justine on Jul 22, 2014 11:45:18 GMT 1
Oh Gwennie Big hugs for you all XXX
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Post by gwenoakes on Jul 22, 2014 11:45:43 GMT 1
Thanks everyone. Jack has gone very peacefully and Edna is now with him in the field.
We have arranged for a little Falabello to come after 4p.m. today and Jack not being moved till 4. Once again thanks. XXX
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Post by hislordshipsmum on Jul 22, 2014 11:47:21 GMT 1
So sorry to hear your news. It's very hard to no what to do with their companions.
Harry had been with Bonnie for over 10 years and we made sure that she was PTS in Harry's field with him standing next to her. In Harry's case, this definitely helped him to accept that she was gone. I'm sure he would have got a lot more stressed if we had taken her away from him and he was unable to figure out where she had gone. Afterwards I let him sniff her and stand with her. He watched very intently as she was removed as well which again seemed to cause him less stress. It also helped Bonnie as we did nothing different to her normal routine, she just thought she was standing with her buddy.
The vet did sedate Harry afterwards just to help him cope and I remained with him on and off throughout the day and I made sure I kept his routine the same to help him adjust. Also my friend left her horses in the next field for a few days so that he could have company over the fence. He was very quiet for some time and definitely grieved for her for many months but I still believe it was right for him to see her go. I was told also that he was feeding off my grief so we just looked after each other.
I hope things go as well as they can for you.
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Post by kafee on Jul 22, 2014 11:47:46 GMT 1
RIP Jack. Sorry to hear he's had to leave you.
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Post by crazycolt on Jul 22, 2014 11:52:05 GMT 1
I'm so sorry to hear this. I can only say that in my opinion it is absolutely necessary to let animals see their companions when they have died/been pts. If one of my horses goes out for the day, the other wanders about waiting for him to come home, same with the dogs, if one goes to the vets, the other is very unsettled until he comes back. Can you imagine if a companion just disappeared, at least if they see them they know. When I lost William I left him in the field, and let Tally in. She walked up to him, walked around him, gave him a poke with her nose, sniffed him all over, and then walked off! She seemed satisfied with that. Of course it's personal preference, and it's entirely up to the individual person, but that's how I feel.If we credit our horses with intelligence, and understanding, I feel that they deserve to be given the option.
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Post by VeronicaF on Jul 22, 2014 11:59:54 GMT 1
so sorry Gwen, RIP Jack xxxx
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Post by portiabuzz on Jul 22, 2014 12:03:19 GMT 1
Gwennie am so sorry about Jack.... sending lots of hugs to you and Claire and all the family Xxxxxxxx
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