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Post by cookie on Jun 17, 2014 13:30:04 GMT 1
The thing is that lots of stuff we enjoy is on the General - updates on Fal jumping, breaking her collar bone etc etc. Might it be possible to have a single open thread which all sorts on it? Just 'Open' - NH, General, and whatever. Back to the much simpler board of the early days. this has happened to so many groups - too many boards and then too many places to look at and keep up with. I'm another that found IH through the general board. Ideally I'd like to see general kept, could be merged with NH and other boards close. I suspect the difficulty is that by posting a question on general IH one expects a certain ethos and level of expertise in the reply. This may not always happen of course and is where the workload is generated for IH. If the IH input isn't there then all you have is another horsey forum, albeit with nice people Btw, what's this abut Fals collar bone? Poor thing.
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Post by highlanderpony2002 on Jun 17, 2014 14:46:45 GMT 1
This will have to be bye bye then for me as I am unable to pay for the forums I frequent as the pennies are spoken for for the ponies OH is no longer in work and we only have a small pension so no extras I am afraid
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Post by Admin on Jun 17, 2014 15:03:47 GMT 1
I suspect the difficulty is that by posting a question on general IH one expects a certain ethos and level of expertise in the reply. This may not always happen of course and is where the workload is generated for IH. If the IH input isn't there then all you have is another horsey forum, albeit with nice people You've hit the nail on the head, Cookie. While the IHDG has always been open to a wide range of views from members, we feel it is important to have the IH ethos at heart. In cases where a post goes counter to that ethos, it is important that either an IH view is presented as well, or that the post is moderated. It's lovely to hear offers of help in general moderation but it doesn't resolve the problem of the need for IH expert input.
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Post by mrsfields on Jun 17, 2014 15:08:58 GMT 1
absolutely gutted... although i don't manage to post much, this place has been a total life-line for me and my horses over the past 8 or so years...
we're really isolated, in deepest rural France (aka arse-end of nowhere), with very little "decent" back-up in terms of our kind of horse management... my horses are barefoot, in medium work, now out competing, live on track, and are trained using Kelly's IH methods (i bought all her books back when i bought my 2 boys as babies as i wanted the best education for them, and i learned as they learned), but i feel so alone here where i live, and really appreciate this place for the like-minded people, as it reassures me i am not alone, and not completely crazy lol
one example - i have always used positive reinforcement, utterly gushing praise with my boys in their training, and i have two beautifully mentally and physically balanced and willing grown lads to show for it, however, my daughter was recently shouted out by her riding instructor because she gave our Reggie a quick stroke on the neck after he jumped the first (very high!) jump on their first ever X-country course - he was hesitating slightly, but daughter kept him straight and he jumped it, so she gave him a little stroke immediately afterwards to boost his confidence as they galloped along a long stretch of grass towards the next jump - and her instructor SHOUTS at her in front of everyone - i cannot bear that kind of mentality, but that is the norm here where i live it seems! so god, i really do appreciate this place beyond words... i would also struggle to pay for IH membership as with two grown up teenagers, one about to start uni hence having to pay his rent and maintenance ourselves, along with 3 horses, working freelance and all the associated bills, i just can't stretch to it right now... am on facebook, but the interactions are nothing like in here, and only involve "liking" IH posts, but wouldn't know where to go on facebook to get this level of support...
anyway, better stop moaning... but would be very sad to lose this place and the people in it...
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Post by lroy on Jun 17, 2014 15:19:12 GMT 1
Yeah really sad -have learnt so much over the last few years from everyone on the board.
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Post by rosemaryhannah on Jun 17, 2014 15:43:38 GMT 1
The thing is, admin, despite the work involved, it is an excellent way of allowing Joe Public and also other followers, to see who we think aobut problems. The much appreciated members forum is preaching to the converted and the Facebook page is jolly and fun but does not give much insight into what makes us different. It is General, and General alone, which lets non members see how IH works out in practise. Yes, you may not always get experts, but generally you do get members thinking like IH people. It is not just problems - that is the thing. It is seeing the little IH sorties played out in front of us. Getting injuries, recovering, buying new horses, working through difficulties, kids coming off, kids coping. People with field management problems, and worries, often ill founded. All of this is played out,and IH is modelled in a way that no straightforward 'solution to your problem' is ever every going to give you.
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Post by portiabuzz on Jun 17, 2014 16:24:40 GMT 1
The thing is, admin, despite the work involved, it is an excellent way of allowing Joe Public and also other followers, to see who we think aobut problems. The much appreciated members forum is preaching to the converted and the Facebook page is jolly and fun but does not give much insight into what makes us different. It is General, and General alone, which lets non members see how IH works out in practise. Yes, you may not always get experts, but generally you do get members thinking like IH people. It is not just problems - that is the thing. It is seeing the little IH sorties played out in front of us. Getting injuries, recovering, buying new horses, working through difficulties, kids coming off, kids coping. People with field management problems, and worries, often ill founded. All of this is played out,and IH is modelled in a way that no straightforward 'solution to your problem' is ever every going to give you. very well put RH
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Post by kizi on Jun 17, 2014 16:32:08 GMT 1
Ihdg participants could start their own fb group page.. I know it's not the same and doesn't help those not on fb but it is a means by which to keep in contact with each other... Not suggesting it be an IH group page.. There are other (parelli) such group pages but I am not joined so don't know how well it works or doesn't. Keep it a closed group and the wrong people can't take the wrong advice.. But again even a small group page requires a moderator... I have one set up for my trec group and it is quite handy.. As a way to keep in touch.. Discuss plans etc.. Even just for your f&g!! Just a suggestion.. I can see both sides of the decision and it must not have been an easy one to come to... Ih input is very time consuming and time is money unfortunately I suppose...
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Post by portiabuzz on Jun 17, 2014 16:37:30 GMT 1
I dont want a FB page want the DG lol
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Post by wills on Jun 17, 2014 16:49:02 GMT 1
I dont want a FB page want the DG lol Me to! FB doesn't cut it as a forum. It wasn't designed for that.
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Post by rosemaryhannah on Jun 17, 2014 16:54:22 GMT 1
Well of course you can start an open or a closed Proboard - anybody can.
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Post by portiabuzz on Jun 17, 2014 19:55:37 GMT 1
Indeed......
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Post by Mellymoo on Jun 17, 2014 20:38:04 GMT 1
This forum changed my life - helped me with horse issues, let me meet lots of wonderful friends, and probably stopped me from giving up horses altogether. It would be a shame for it to close.
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Post by ☼ WIZARD ☼ on Jun 17, 2014 22:30:13 GMT 1
Well of course you can start an open or a closed Proboard - anybody can. ok then who's up for this? wizard tick
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Post by varkie on Jun 17, 2014 22:32:31 GMT 1
I suspect the difficulty is that by posting a question on general IH one expects a certain ethos and level of expertise in the reply. This may not always happen of course and is where the workload is generated for IH. If the IH input isn't there then all you have is another horsey forum, albeit with nice people You've hit the nail on the head, Cookie. While the IHDG has always been open to a wide range of views from members, we feel it is important to have the IH ethos at heart. In cases where a post goes counter to that ethos, it is important that either an IH view is presented as well, or that the post is moderated. It's lovely to hear offers of help in general moderation but it doesn't resolve the problem of the need for IH expert input. But presumably this input will still be in place on the (paying) members board? But no longer available for the (free) general public board? I repeat my earlier thoughts - a huge shame. And other members have made a very good point - I, along with many others, originally came to IH through the board. I went on all the (at the time) Level 1 courses, including the five day course. Had it not been for the forum, I doubt I would have done that. I may have found IH as an organisation, but I would not have had a chance to dip my toe into it and see whether it was for me. I would not have paid to go to a demo by someone I didn't know. I can't help but wonder if the loss of the public forum may not equate to a loss of some new interest for IH. If it does go ahead, then I suspect this will be my final postings on IH, probably my last interactions with IH. I wish well all those who have taught me, assisted me and supported me in the past. I shall miss many of you.
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