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Post by nelvis on Jul 11, 2008 20:40:11 GMT 1
OK, it's Friday evening, and I've been easing the strain off my brain having finished the 5 day course. I'm also feeling slightly guilty as this is the 4th course I've finished but the first time I've set finger to keys to type anything up...oops!
What can I say? From the welcoming and warm atmosphere, to the flourish of concepts and the emphasis on learning (not teaching - there's a difference!) it's been an incredible week.
The first two days feel very intense (I've had the best sleep I can remember for a long time this week), and then the pace changes on the last three days as you get more and more chances to put these concepts and principles in practice and to watch others doing so in a very positive atmosphere.
Having done 4 courses now there's a couple of constants that come across other than the principles and concepts of IH; positivity, learning and the quality of the tutors themselves. Ian got me to understand the structure of the foot and the lower leg with more clarity than my Uni tutors ever mustered. The RAs and Kelly that taught during the last 5 days are exceptionally clear, patient and constructive.
I feel like I've come away from the last five days with my eyes opened up again to the possibilities available to us in our relationships with horses, many, many more tools available to practice with and a sneaking suspicion that I'm going to be trying to help other people make better decisions about how to relate to horses.
Right, enough of my waffle. That's probably quite a long post, but the courses have managed to turn my brain back on to learning and creativity again.
Is that a good thing considering that I play electric guitar and have a sadly neglected amp at home?
Ooooh yes.
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Post by linz101 on Jul 16, 2008 18:44:52 GMT 1
I went on the five day foundation last week, and can honestly say i learnt more about horses that week than i have in the last ten years. It's made me re discover my passion for horses and i'm determined to apply what i've learnt in my job in horse racing. I'm gonna fight to change the horse racing world ha ha ha. Follow my fight on the Anglia area page. Massive thanks to all the wonderful staff and teachers at Hartsop.!! Lindsey
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Post by magali on Jul 17, 2008 13:04:51 GMT 1
I've attended last week's 5 days course and my head is still buzzing with not only all the things I've learnt but mainly what great opportunities it's going to give me to apply them to the horses I work with. I'm starting this weekend to put the work in practice and I can't wait to see the fantastic results coming in. Not only the people, teachers and helpers where fantastic but the horses too. What fabulous teachers! They were reacting exactly to the message you were sending them, making you work on your weaknesses until your message was clear. It was such a fantastic experience. I can't wait to go on other courses now.
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Post by fin on Jul 17, 2008 16:10:02 GMT 1
Hello folks! Glad you all got home safely Rohan and I came on the last 5 Day course too--I'm a lazy moo so I was spectating (we decided a long time ago that trying to do join-up with JJ would be suicide so I guess right now I don't need the practical experience in doing it til I get a sane horse). And yes, it was absolutely excellent. The folks were lovely and all really, really good. It was interesting to see the diversity of folks there--we had some who worked with horses, some getting back into horses, some about to buy a horse, and plenty of interests from Western (that was us) to jumping, regaining confidence, improving training and schooling methods, hacking, sorting out problems, and in Lindsey's case reforming racing (which I supsect she might actually do ). From my stress-free position of being able to watch everyone without having to worry about what I was doing, it was really interesting to see how much everyone developed and grew in confidence over the five days. By the last day literally everyone was making it look easy in the round pen It's not all about join-up though. I now understand how longlining works and we've actually longlined Mr Awkward I Will Go Backwards QH twice since and he's really enjoying it--even to the point of offering quite a bit of trot (forwards, rather than backwards) today, which given how ill and un-coperative he has been, is a hopeful sign The quality of the teaching is excellent. I can't possibly single anyone out for particular attention on that although I could say very good things about all of them We were all made extremely welcome and comfortable at Hartsop Farm (the bottomless biscuit tin and endless coffee was well appreciated, especially since the weather was utterly heeeeejous the entire week!) and the helpers were super too. I'm seriously thinking that I might go back and do the practical aspects of the course. It'll probably be next year now but we're doing the Horse as Athlete and the Nutrition course in a couple of weeks, and hopefully we'll fit in the Psychology weekend over winter, so I'm definately looking forward to those
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Post by domane on Aug 10, 2008 19:42:55 GMT 1
I've just been a helper on the Perfect Manners weekend and if I'm allowed to post I just want to say what a brilliant time I had. Everyone was so welcoming, friendly and supportive. Yes, it was hard work at times but Kelly was really keen to include us wherever possible in the lectures and observation. My mare is currently out on loan as my daughter became a single parent in May and I needed to free up some time to help her get to grips with motherhood (and myself with the "grandmother" label!! ) so I loaned Cherry out for the summer as I didn't think I would have the proper time to dedicate to her - so having spent so much hands-on time with the horses (and ickle ponies) today I really have had a lovely time. If anyone is considering being a helper - I would urge you to put your name down. It's FABBY ;D My thanks to all involved ......
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Post by Kelly Marks on Jan 14, 2009 19:46:28 GMT 1
Horse Psychology Weekend Post by ruthp on Yesterday at 4:18am
Well, I went on the Horse Psychology course last weekend, and came home totally exhausted - but in a good way.
The course is obviously part of the overall IH qualifications, and a lot of people who were there have a long term ambition to work with horses and their owners. However, as a happy hacker with no ambitions in that direction it was still a fascinating and useful course. I am sure it will help me with my relationships with my horses.
Although the course is titled "Horse" psychology (and yes, you do learn how to spell it!) you also end up looking at a certain amount of human psychology, because if you don't learn how to read the human owner, you've probably got very little chance of helping the horse. So I ended up examining my own behaviour around my horses, and I'm hoping that a few minor changes will make some major differences.
I also met lots of great IH enthusisasts from all walks of life, and with really interesting reasons for being on the course. So to all of you who were on the course, it was lovely to meet you, and thanks for helping to make it so interesting.
So, I would recommend this course to everyone who has any interest in making life better for horses, even if they are only thinking about their own horse.
I've done plenty of courses in my working life, many of which I've chosen to do because they are in subjects that interest me, but I have never found anyone who teaches as well as Kelly does. To keep a roomful of people engaged for two fairly long days takes a huge amount of skill, energy and enthusiasm, and as you all know, Kelly has all three in abundance.
Thanks Kelly.
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Glad you enjoyed it ruth. It is a fantastic week end, a reall treat! I too was exhusted by the end of it, and I know my pal was too, why is that? Perhaps its that long walk Kelly makes you do..... -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: Horse Psychology Weekend Post by kate1981 on Yesterday at 8:00am
ooo goody!! I'm going this weekend.
anyone else there this weekend?
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I supposed to be on the same course as you ruthp this weekend, but life went downhill just at the wrong time! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: Horse Psychology Weekend Post by ruthp on Yesterday at 12:13pm
Sarah, you're not the one who sent your father are you? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: Horse Psychology Weekend Post by arabmania on Yesterday at 4:01pm
fantastic that you enjoyed the course. i understand exactly what you mean when you talk about analysing our own behaviour. My job demands constant evaluating of behaviour and it really does make you look at yourself and those around you. its a definite plus realising the impact that yourself and others can have on all situations in life. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: Horse Psychology Weekend Post by jen1 on Yesterday at 5:02pm
well i have to say that im in complete agreeance with you there ruth, now looking forward to using mifresh eye;s, i dont care how muh experience you have, its alway helpfull to have fresh eyes, if you know what i mean, lol it was a fab coarse, kelly certainly has a way with people, i think id like to do the whole thing again, it was great to meet you all, jen x -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: Horse Psychology Weekend Post by hl on Today at 3:57am
It's a great course isn't it, I really enjoyed it when I went too.
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Post by Kelly Marks on Mar 15, 2009 7:42:25 GMT 1
Leading and Loading Course - brilliant! « Thread Started on Mar 11, 2009, 10:57am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just wanted to say a huge thanks to Kelly and the guys at Hartsop - the Leading and Loading course I've just done was brilliant! It was so good to work with the horses and see them improve - and to be encouraged to think things thru and come up with the plan of action rather than being told what to do
Kelly - big thanks, and I hope you hear from Beamish's mum (Alison) that he got home safely and she has found someone to help her with progress the work with him!
Lucky Red
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Post by Kelly Marks on Dec 19, 2009 8:52:20 GMT 1
Very proud - thanks again IH for the 5 day course « Thread Started Yesterday at 7:33pm » ________________________________________ From Michelle My boy has fallen in love with a new horse in the neighbouring field. So much so he won't come in for hay or hard feed! So... first day I went up there to get him and at first he moved away from the head collar but I caught him ok and brought in. Second day, he says hello to me and as soon as I lift the head collar he walks away.
I was in a dilemma ... our field is 10 acres - if I send him away I could have been there all day and done more harm than good ... however, he was so intent on staying with his beloved I gave it a go, as he really wanted to be near to a short section of fence where his girlfriend was.
As he walked away from the head collar I raised both arms made kissing noises and made eye contact and strode towards him ... he went off like a firecracker, tail vertical, nostrils flaring ... in a relatively small arc back towards the fence... I stayed at the fence and kept sending him away.
For about 3 mins and four arcs (of about 30m length) he trotted and cantered back and forth then suddenly dropped his head for a moment, licked and quickly turned to face me. I walked arcs around him, asking him in and he came. We did follow up circles and I rubbed his neck and shoulders then went to put head collar on and he stepped away so I sent him away again. This time, one arc and he wanted to come back so I invited him in, did the same procedure and he stood very politely for me to put his head collar on and he led in very nicely!
The whole process took no more than 5 mins
I am SO thankful for learning this process on the 5 day course, I never would have tried it without that teaching and confidence boost and if I hadn't been able to get him to join up with me I don't think I'd have had a chance of catching him
From Sandy Well done. It really does work doesn’t it? My youngster is stabled at night next to a gelding. They are in adjoining stables and there doors are literally side by side. Arizona is quite wary of coming past Saracen so I have to get Saracen back from his door so Ari will walk out of his. At first I was saying 'back and pushing Saracen back away from the door. Didn’t work. Then one morning I remembered watching Monty on sky and he had shown how you hold your arm out with palm facing the horse and fingers outstretched. It works - this is all I have to do and Saracen actually turns from his door and walks a few steps away - I can then walk Arizona safely out of his stable. Amazing!
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Post by Kelly Marks on Jul 24, 2010 15:55:07 GMT 1
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Joined: Nov 2009 Gender: Female Posts: 7 Location: Rattray, Aberdeenshire How the 5 day course helped me « Thread Started on Jun 12, 2010, 7:42pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I recently did the 5 day Foundation Course (17th - 21st May), whilst doing a join up with Sarah (lovely Grey) I learned that I have difficulty dropping my adrenaline once it has risen. That was something I kinda knew but had difficulty admitting and therefore, addressing.
Since coming home I have been working on my breathing and relaxation techniques. Yesterday I was helping my friend with her horses, one of whom is renowned for being a little 'bolshy'.
After working on picking her feet up and rasping them (she doesn't like farriers much), my friend said to me "Since you've come back from that course, you're so much calmer both in yourself and when around the horses".
So a big thank you to all involved in helping me become a calmer person and therefore a nicer person for my horses to be near.
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Post by Kelly Marks on Jul 24, 2010 18:36:15 GMT 1
From Dr Ali of the Brooke Hospital for Animals Ian and I have worked with Dr Ali in Jordan and Dehli This email came out of the blue today and makes me want to burst with pride at my wonderful student!
Hi Kelly, Thank you so much for your nice e mail, it is so nice to hear from you. how is every one? how is life? I am so sorry did not write you since a while, life and work been so so. I am in Kenya now to provide training course to local vets. since I had the training from you and Ian, the first day always in my training is your way of handling the horses, I learnt A LOT from you, which always make me feel so proud as the positive feedback I get from the vets I train, all cridet to you , you can not imagine how much your teaching me helped horses, thousands by spreding the basics of your methods. please be proud of this, not only you helping the horses in UK, NOW you helping thousands and thousands of horses, and donkeys in many part of the \world and this is honest. last week my colleages were in Egypt giving clinical training to some vets from Jordan, Egypt, and Pakistan, there was one vet from Pakistan who was the best in handling the horses, and passed the assessment, he told them " I have learnt this from Dr.Ali" , and me saying I have learnt this from Kelly and Ian. so many many thanks again.
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Post by smee on May 20, 2011 14:36:37 GMT 1
When I was sixty years old I thought was too old for horses. But the course gave me a new lease of life. It taught me things the British Horse Society never could have taught me in a million years. Having previously had a good grounding under top class trainers in racing - both stable and stud, I always felt that something of the equine psychological was missing. After waiting a lifetime I found it at the course. The experience was jaw dropping and was also an experience in self recognition. Over the last 10 years I have found that you meet only nice kind people in the Intelligent Horsemanship world. Let’s face it; natural horsemanship is for those who love horses enough to search for a kinder way with horses and people.
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Post by Andrew Moy on Jul 9, 2011 23:56:57 GMT 1
I went on the 5 day foundation course as a gift to myself for my 50th birthday. There are so many great things about the course and on so many levels it is difficult to describe why it is so brilliant - but it is! It is one of the those experience where the impact just grows and grows over time. It has made me really inquisative - I am noticing things that I never noticed - and left me thirsty to understand more!
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Post by rj on Jul 11, 2011 15:53:53 GMT 1
Ah, is that the Andrew who was on the course I helped on 22 - 24 June? If so the rest of us have all been in touch with each other, but your email address has kept bouncing back. Send me a Private Message (click on my name in the box on the left and then the 'send personal message' option with your email & I'll send it on to all the others. If it's not you, apologies - but happy 50th anyway!
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Post by izz on Jul 27, 2011 19:57:59 GMT 1
I did the course in June, 11 days of it Was fantastic and im looking forward to learning more. I travelled over from South Africa to do and it was well worth the travelling and costs etc would recommend it to everyone!
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Post by rusheen on Aug 11, 2011 1:46:31 GMT 1
Came back, 10 years after my first course with Kelly, as a 'helper', with my daughter as a student. Was unlucky as a 'helper' because the team of volunteers was headed by someone who, i felt, was aggressive and insecure around humans and inexperienced around horses. That experience has not impacted on any way for me as a practitioner of Kelly's methods and my daughter also found the course really useful in reinforcing the fact that there are alternative and empathetic ways of working with horses and humans. Many many thanks to Kelly and team for letting me participate and upskill, and for giving another generation a boost in terms of understanding horses intelligently.
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