madmare1
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Post by madmare1 on Dec 13, 2010 0:11:19 GMT 1
stupid waste of a life..........really is annoying me, as I know this pony can have a decent life. It's going to stress out my mare, who is really attached to her, and I don't know what to do...short of barricading her stable and not allowing the vet in!
Any suggestions gratefully recieved!!
Emma xx
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Post by jill on Dec 13, 2010 8:39:47 GMT 1
Buy her off the owner? Or rather get the owner to gift her to you - she will be saving a fair amount on euthanasia and disposal costs
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Post by madmare1 on Dec 13, 2010 11:26:11 GMT 1
I wish I could, but she won't even listen to me. I have tried, even the YO has tried....no joy. She is being very blinkered and stubborn on this, and the pony is going to pay the price...how can you get through to someone who is so blinkered and ignorant.
Her daughter has a lovely black arab mare, that I recommended to them, and I have been reschooling her....normally, I charge £20 per hour...I have given her over 10 hours, without charging, and now she is saying I am being unreasonable to ask for the £200 she owes me.
I think she should just give me Poppy in return for the schooling...and then I can at least give her a chance at a decent life.
Emma xx
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Post by kafee on Dec 13, 2010 12:43:29 GMT 1
I'm sorry to hear your help has been turned down, you just can't help some people, can you. Perhaps the owner can't bear the responsibility of looking after a sick pony and watching it deteriorate. They may have experienced this with a previous pet or family member. Very few people are as tough as they seem.
Try to look on the positive side, the owner is acting responsibly so that the pony will not suffer from being passed around, and her condition being neglected, which would be worse.
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Post by crinks on Dec 17, 2010 20:40:06 GMT 1
Not sure if Emma (madmare1) is up to posting this but I will
The vet cam up today and had a good look at little Poppy pony. sadly her pedal bonehad dropped beyond what would have been redeemable, if her owner had carried on it would have only been causing her more pain and would have given her a few weeks at the most. So Poppy was regreatably and sadly PTS with many tears and broken hearts today
It was all over in a few minutes, the vet and the disposal peole were lovely and very kind and considerate, they felt it as much as any oen else did.
Strange thing though all the horses knew what had happened, those who were stabled stopped eating and all of them came to the front of their boxes and hung their heads over their doors, and those who were out in the field all came to the gate, they were I think, bidding Poppy farewell and God Speed in their own way.
RIP Poppy.............for the short time we knew you, you stole our hearts away and broke them when you had to leave.
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Post by jill on Dec 18, 2010 8:53:46 GMT 1
RIP Poppy - from what you say it sounds as though the problem was the founder rather than the IR. No more sore feet for her now.
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Post by fabthehealthyhorse on Dec 29, 2010 20:34:25 GMT 1
oh no...i have only just become a member of this forum....and have found this thread...am i too late, was Poppy pts? In case she wasnt or for any horse with insulin resistance in future, I use, and now sell, as i am so awed by them, the most amazing herbs for insulin resistance/diabetes, and also for thyroid and other metabolic issues. made up specialy by an intuitive healer man, and they originate from the Navajo american indians....ie they are what the horse would choose for himself to self medicate. if anyone interested, or if Poppy got a reprieve, get in touch. It is heartbreadking when you try to help and know it will work, and the owner goes their own....opposite...way anyway. Best of luck xxx
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Post by june on Dec 29, 2010 21:09:46 GMT 1
That's a shame. We've got a horse here with Cushings who had dropped pedal bones. You could see all the bleeding underneath them through her soles and the sole was paper thin. Everyone was amazed she was still standing but she was and as long as she was fighting we had to keep fighting for her. She was put on Pergolide and is now doing well. She's completely sound on soft ground, slightly footy on hard ground. She's on yard rest now and has a good buck and canter in the the arena of her own accord every now and again so is obviously feeling well again. It is possible to get these horses sound again but it does take a fair amount of effort.
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Post by madmare1 on Dec 29, 2010 23:23:40 GMT 1
Fab, she was PTS, it will be 2 weeks on friday. Her pedal bones had dropped THROUGH her soles...it happened very quickly. She was very weak as well, and was developing other problems with her joints because she wasn't moving. Poppy had given up, and it was unfair of us to keep her going when she was obviously suffering.
Emma xx
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Post by jfors on Dec 30, 2010 7:07:25 GMT 1
Have just read Milo's horrific post and the news about poor Poppy. Sometimes pts is the only way to go but it hurts so much when you have been fighting for them and suddenly there is nothing left to do.
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Post by jill on Dec 30, 2010 11:37:07 GMT 1
Old Charlie who was rehomed to Powys had Cushings and dropped pedal bones, and is relatively okay for most of the time - I am told he can be seen trotting and cantering around the field. I had approved euthanasia for him a year or so ago, and although maybe in his case it was for the best that he wasn't, I do think sometimes we should let them go and end their suffering. It is one thing we can do for them - I see posts on other groups, particularly in the US, where the owners refuse to give up and put their horses through weeks or months of painful existence. I don't believe in life at all costs - particularly the cost to the animal. I suspect from what you wrote that PTS was a kindness to Poppy and keeping her going even with good treatment would have meant a lot of pain and suffering for her. I'm sure yours was different June, as you said, a fighter so she was helped to fight. They aren't all like that, and maybe we should sometimes question our motives in not giving up - is it for them or for ourselves?
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Post by madmare1 on Dec 30, 2010 18:10:13 GMT 1
Jill, she didn't even struggle. It was like she looked up and said Thank you and then she was gone. The pedal bones were actually through her soles....you could see the tip of the bone protruding from her sole.
Emma xx
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