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Post by kt with Hanni on Dec 31, 2009 0:18:22 GMT 1
Hi Everyone, Just need some advice please. I've found some land at the bottom of a property i'm interested in. I looked on the local council website and it says John D Wood & Co have submitted a site submission to council. Proposed use - Mixed use - commercial development, housing or A40 highway improvments. What are the chances do you think of approaching the appropriate person to show interest in buying the land? Thanks in advance  |
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Post by mandal on Dec 31, 2009 0:22:29 GMT 1
I don't know for certain but if the 'site' is given permission then imo the land will be prohibitively expensive I'm afraid. The other thing to think of if there are going to be houses, light industry or whatever what impact might it have on the property you are interested in?  Sorry to be doom and gloom.  |
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Post by kt with Hanni on Dec 31, 2009 0:37:55 GMT 1
Thanks Mandal. I think maybe to contact local council and ask? The submission was submitted back in 2008. Does it mean as a site submission that it's not for sale? As John D Wood is an estate agent? How expensive could it potentially be do you think? Its about 2 acres. Sorry for all the questions. Many thanks
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Post by Liz on Dec 31, 2009 1:04:40 GMT 1
I'd say the same as Mandal. The land will be very expensive indeed of any sort of permission for development has been given. If it is developed then the value of the property you're interested in will plummet - and if the property already seems relatively inexpensive then that is probably the reason. If you want land for horses then my guess is that may be a bad buy in the future if not now. I'd walk away from that one, I think.
I would think the agents have submitted plans to the council then they will be acting on behalf of developers and/or landowners and that means big money.
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Post by kt with Hanni on Dec 31, 2009 1:11:13 GMT 1
What a shame :-( thanks for advice. The property is already overpriced I think. Will ask a few questions then move away i think. I knew I shouldn't get my hopes up but its difficult :-)
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Post by Furiey on Dec 31, 2009 2:44:52 GMT 1
Was the submission approved or turned down? If it was turned down it may help you...
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Post by mandal on Dec 31, 2009 12:13:51 GMT 1
Yes the Council will know. However I have a feeling that once a developer has his eyes on a site one refusal is not going to stop them trying again.
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Post by Furiey on Dec 31, 2009 14:59:19 GMT 1
Round our way I've noticed that they are selling fields broken into little tiny plots (ie: by the square foot not the acre) as investment development opportunities. Hope you find something.
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Post by welly on Dec 31, 2009 21:04:11 GMT 1
I think a site submission is when the owner of the land, or their agent, puts forward their site as a building site, for whatever uses, either housing or factories, or retail, etc. Just what they think might have the best chance to be agreed by the Council. This doesn't mean that the Council will give planning permission.
At the moment the Government is asking Councils to find sites for thousands of extra houses, and local Councils also need sites for factories, development etc. to keep the local economy moving and expanding.
At the moment all Councils work to their Local Plan, and if the proposed site is not included as a development area in the Local Plan it is highly unlikely that planning permission would be granted - for the moment.
However, when the Council reviews its Local Plan, roughly every 10 years, they may well look favourably on sites that the owners have put forward for possible development, because they will have a willing partner. Of course, it is likely that other people in the area would object to the site being developed, so in the end it is up to how much the Council needs the site and how it fits in with the overall development plan.
Some sites have "hope value" for 30 or 40 years, but don't get developed.
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Post by Liz on Dec 31, 2009 21:46:29 GMT 1
Round our way I've noticed that they are selling fields broken into little tiny plots (ie: by the square foot not the acre) as investment development opportunities. Hope you find something. Don't get involved with that, furiey!!!  It's a well known scam and some, correctly, in my view, call it fraud! |
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Post by Liz on Dec 31, 2009 22:14:09 GMT 1
At the moment the Government is asking Councils to find sites for thousands of extra houses, and local Councils also need sites for factories, development etc. to keep the local economy moving and expanding. That smacks so much of the old communist ways and means of seeming to keep people employed - it does nothing to help economies in the long term. You know, loads of jobs whilst the houses, factories etc are being built - but after that? Empty factories, business parks etc, etc At the moment all Councils work to their Local Plan, and if the proposed site is not included as a development area in the Local Plan it is highly unlikely that planning permission would be granted - for the moment. That's not always the case, welly. Our local council has granted permission to build 200 homes in my village on land which was protected green belt and was not in the local plan - it was not not an AONB but something like protected landscape. The protected status was unilaterally removed - no consultation at all and all because this dreadful, centralised government installed an unelected regional agency which dictates policy and over-rides any local objections regardless of the suitability of the area for such developments. Currently there is a delay going ahead because the infrastructure cannot cope with existing traffic let alone the increase this will inevitably bring. The current thinking involves making the whole village a one-way system, adding miles to journeys to enter or leave the place. Absolutely bonkers! The plan is to build 20,000 new homes around Taunton, thus doubling the size of the area. There is nothing like that number of jobs in the pipeline so what IS the point? What was a nice small market town is now becoming an ugly urban conurbation. Sorry to rant but this sort of ill considered scheme gets me very, very MAD  I do hope you find something KT - I'm sure you will but it just might take some time to find the right place. |
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It's a well known scam and some, correctly, in my view, call it fraud!