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Post by heather on Oct 22, 2009 14:36:05 GMT 1
www.youtube.com/user/eponatv#p/uI am sickened to the pit of my stomach- that poor horse. What I wouldnt like to do to the perpetrators- how the FEI can permit this sort of thing to happen in the warm up arena, bad enough we know it goes on at home, but this is an absolute disgrace. Look at that poor horses tongue. Even the audience in the background look concerned, uneasy. Heather
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Post by rj on Oct 22, 2009 14:42:02 GMT 1
Can't watch it all, but he stops and puts the horses tongue back under the bit? Then back to fixed hands hauling horses head to its chest? That's top class dressage riding, and is allowed in full public view with no consequences?
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Post by wabuska on Oct 22, 2009 14:44:51 GMT 1
That's just sad and sick.
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Post by bryony83 on Oct 22, 2009 14:47:32 GMT 1
That poor horse. And the judges did absolutely nothing! Sick
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Post by mandal on Oct 22, 2009 15:23:30 GMT 1
Wonder why he bothers putting on those fancy bandages to protect the legs when that is happening to the sensitive mouth and neck!! Just makes no sense to me at all... any of it!!! Most of the horses have their heads pulled in in that clip!!
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Post by K8 on Oct 22, 2009 15:29:00 GMT 1
Awful. The general public need to be made aware of this.
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Post by heather on Oct 22, 2009 15:44:47 GMT 1
There is a facebook group being started and Nadja King, editor of online magazine, Horses For Life, I alerted and she is starting an international petition to the FEI.
Heather
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Post by spring on Oct 22, 2009 15:51:09 GMT 1
Horrific. After that Anky warm up expose that went round the internet you'd think the FEI might start to put some effort into stewarding what goes on in the warmup. I also wish they'd have tack inspections, if it worked in my pony club you'd think it would be good enough at grand prix level. I'd love to go round loosening those crank nosebands, you'd think that by now the FEI should come up with some kind of regulation on how tight you can have them. Disgusting. I just keep on wanting to see those beautiful willing horses broncing some of those beasts off.
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Post by madhatter on Oct 22, 2009 15:55:01 GMT 1
So sad and horrid to watch but, unfortunately until dressage judges start marking down over flexion this practice will continue. Unfortunately I see it a lot in Germany, even just in general training.
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Post by sarahbing on Oct 22, 2009 16:23:25 GMT 1
Not sure if its my monitor but that tongue looked tinged with blue to me. Have a look and let me know if its just me? Agree with the previous poster - the standard of judging needs to change first, then the stewarding at warm up. As a dressage enthusiast and competitor, I know only too well that many people will not see a problem with that sort of 'working in'. Education, as always is the key. That and people like Heather, who is so well respected, creating merry hell!! Go Heather
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Post by mandal on Oct 22, 2009 16:35:09 GMT 1
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Post by Susan on Oct 22, 2009 16:35:24 GMT 1
When we had the Bitting clinic done she showed how even a ( what many have believed to be kinder but now we know different) a thick rubber pelham had cut off the blood suppy in minutes it was in the mouth of one of Junes Polo ponies, she then show it with a raise port with room for the tongue and guess what pink tongue.. if it has taken us till that clinic to learn better.. and that was last year.. imagine how long it will take for that information to get to all and then you will have the ones who refuse to believe or even attend and listen. Till then we all thought a thicker bit was kinder and in fact it isnt. It takes up even more precious room in the horses mouth. Simply close your mouth and feel around how much spare space do you have? and then put your finger on your tongue and tryb to swallow..you cant.. and that is the same as bit pressing down and tied up with A FLASH!!
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Post by apachepony on Oct 22, 2009 16:44:49 GMT 1
Awful. From top end competition down to the happy hacker, the willing nature of the horse means he is always balancing on the precarious scales of use or abuse. Silent suffering can be seen, but for some reason, so many ignore what isn't expressed with a voice
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Post by jamesb on Oct 22, 2009 16:55:46 GMT 1
Apachepony summed up what I wanted to say far better than I could! Sorry, simply couldn't get past about the first 30 seconds. Go Heather - you have more than enough credibility for the FEI to take notice of what you've got to say.
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Post by Liz on Oct 22, 2009 16:57:48 GMT 1
Disgraceful riding - not a thought for the comfort and welfare of the horse. A horrible thing to watch. Reminiscent of something I saw at Goodwood years ago - another Swedish rider then, I'm sorry to say. That horse, I'm pleased to say, made his feelings clear in the arena.
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