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Post by big e on Dec 21, 2009 15:37:19 GMT 1
Someone enlighten me as to why people still use this method to control a horse that may take off  I have just had to listen to 10 minutes of how nicely they go with their tongue strapped tight to their bottom jaw.  Some people need re educating  |
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Post by ashleigh on Dec 21, 2009 15:43:32 GMT 1
Someone enlighten me as to why people still use this method to control a horse that may take off Because it is a quicker and easier "solution" than actually bothering to re-school/check back, teeth, saddle etc. It is difficult to believe we are living in the 21st century sometimes isn't it?  |
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Post by mandal on Dec 21, 2009 16:16:58 GMT 1
Is that why they tie tongues?? Is this as in Racing to stop the horse getting his tongue over the bit or some other reason? How is tying down the tongue supposed to stop them tanking off?
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Post by big e on Dec 21, 2009 18:23:02 GMT 1
I only heard today thats its done in racing, the person i was talking to drives and rides cobs but then he is one of those 'tie its head to its foot type' and leave a foal tied to a gate for 4 hours to get it used to being tied up. Problem is, he 100 % believes his methods are correct |
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Post by Lulu on Dec 21, 2009 18:54:29 GMT 1
Thought that tying up tongues were to prevent the horse swallowing its tongue when exterting itself (so the tongue doesn't fall back and block the airways).. Never heard of it being used to stop a horse tanking/taking off !!
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Post by anastasia55555 on Dec 21, 2009 18:57:59 GMT 1
never heard of it too, sounds nasty and asking for more trouble!!
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Post by mollymoo on Dec 21, 2009 19:44:01 GMT 1
Never heard of it....What do they actually do?
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Post by janej55uk on Dec 21, 2009 19:48:09 GMT 1
I have only met it in racing where it is done on some horses to stop them "swallowing" their tongue. It has to be inspected by a vet in the parade ring before the race.
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Post by mandal on Dec 21, 2009 20:02:12 GMT 1
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Post by big e on Dec 21, 2009 21:08:22 GMT 1
interesting article. This man definatley said when his driving cobs play up, he ties the tongue to the bottom jaw (probably with bailer twine ) to make them behave. |
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Post by Liz on Dec 22, 2009 2:10:56 GMT 1
That is totally out of order and will undoubtably cause bigger problems in the long run. What a nasty man.
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Post by portiabuzz on Dec 22, 2009 10:58:36 GMT 1
some also twitch and grab the tongue for restraint...sick
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Post by ashleigh on Dec 22, 2009 15:20:05 GMT 1
Well to be fair, I think that grabbing the tongue and pulling it out the side of the mouth is more to encourage the horse to keep his mouth open to allow for an examinaion, than an actual method of restraint.
Ear twitching I don't like, but for me the jury is still out on top lip twitching, as there are varying degrees of lip twitching.
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Post by portiabuzz on Dec 22, 2009 16:06:27 GMT 1
sorry meant grabbing tongue and twisting it like a twitch but with hand...understand what you mean about moving the tongue Ashleigh x
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Post by rj on Dec 23, 2009 13:35:36 GMT 1
Apparently - & I am open to correction - holding the tongue out of the side of the mouth, however gently, is no longer acceptable. It can cause damage to the soft tissue my horse-dentist says, so a gag should be used if the mouth is to be kept open.
I would have thought that anyone with knowledge of a specific person using inhumane practices, should report what they know to BHS welfare or WHW (ILPH) to look into
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