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Post by VeronicaF on Jul 13, 2010 15:13:26 GMT 1
The cruelty with this man has been going on for a long long time.
see this very old video as one example of so SO many
its a long video so please stay with it, as it is clear to see how cruel he has always been.
you will be able to see this poor horse cruelly hit with his hand and the rope constantly.
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Post by K8 on Jul 13, 2010 15:33:39 GMT 1
I found that hard to watch! He is just so confusing! I f I hadn't heard him say he wanted to load the horse I'd have had no idea that was the object!!!
Soo sad.
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Post by HolsBols on Jul 13, 2010 15:43:15 GMT 1
This is the first time ive properly seen his methods in motion. A friend had once shown me the games which seemed fine. All about teaching the horse commands in order to place their feet where u want them to go without needing to touch them (or and least that was my friends interpretation)
How is making a horse move because it is petrified of you natural horsemanship?!?!? he increasingly winding this horse up and yanking it about and smacking it with the endof the rope! does anyone know how the parelli halter works, cuz to me its an awfully thin rope that surely would put a lot of pressure on a horse as this one?
what mixed messages, hes telling the horse to move away, but then yanking on the halter when the horse goes to far! I cant tell whatthe hell he wants from this horse let along what the horse ust think (i watched without sound!!)
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Post by jaxnbreeze on Jul 13, 2010 16:42:36 GMT 1
I don't understand his method at all. If I hadn't read the title I would never have guessed he was trying to load the poor horse. Apart from making a lot of money what is this man about??
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Post by steve on Jul 13, 2010 16:51:23 GMT 1
I find his methods as confusing as that poor horse did!!
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Post by bullfinch on Jul 13, 2010 16:51:48 GMT 1
Oh dear, things just go from bad to worse!!!! Out come all the skeletons from the closet.
There was three carefully calculated slaps on the face in this video - and the horse didn't look like he was happy about that.
Someone pleaaaase explain to me how PP ever got to where he is now??
And his methods IMO no longer deserve to be classified as horsemanship - natural or otherwise.
Ignorance, bullying, abuse and lack of respect for a living animal - oh, but then according to PP himself I obviously don't understand
And I hope I never will!
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Post by misty on Jul 13, 2010 17:02:59 GMT 1
Where does it say that this is PP's natural loading? I have taught my horses, and loaded other people's horses using the method I was taught at PP's clinic although the method is as old as trailing horses. This guy has a very vague resemblance to what I do but that's as far as it goes. From time to time I still use and get out the old PP video together with Bob Mayhew's stuff and not seen any cruelty. I'm sure some of this is down to peoples' bad interpretation. Shame if what he used to teach as gone down hill as have seen him and (marketing aside) he was a brilliant and fair horseman.
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Post by Tuppence on Jul 13, 2010 17:35:03 GMT 1
PP and his methods aside; looking at the state of the trailer the mare was making a wise decision to stay out of it. Its a deathtrap.
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Post by (\^/) Lotuspoint Joe (\^/) on Jul 13, 2010 17:36:18 GMT 1
That horse in that video was terrified didn't know which way to turn when PP went towards it. Bit confusing to me since i once followed the program and i once was a parelli member but not now as it's all just a money making sceme. Like the rest of us we have our jobs to make money but not to fool people into NH the way PP has and is and make thousands out of it..
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Post by wabuska on Jul 13, 2010 17:47:45 GMT 1
The ramp is clearly failing.
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Post by taklishim on Jul 13, 2010 18:07:10 GMT 1
Where does it say that this is PP's natural loading? I have taught my horses, and loaded other people's horses using the method I was taught at PP's clinic although the method is as old as trailing horses. This guy has a very vague resemblance to what I do
can someone tell me if this is actually parelli himself? or just someone using his methods. He appears very domineering and amateurish. I only watched half. By then I was just lost. Everytime the animal got near the ramp he swung the rope at her. I don't see how she could know what the right thing to do was.
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Post by sandy on Jul 13, 2010 18:09:20 GMT 1
I see a very confused, uncomfortable horse.
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Post by beckie on Jul 13, 2010 18:12:53 GMT 1
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Post by VeronicaF on Jul 13, 2010 18:12:58 GMT 1
Yes this is Pat Parelli himself
its an old video but it is defiantly Pat Parelli himself!
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Post by taklishim on Jul 13, 2010 18:33:20 GMT 1
thank you Veronica. He just seems to be a loudmouth and from watching the catwalk video and the LP one a few weeks ago they seem just soooo unprofessional. I feel sure that many of the people on here could do what he is doing with half the fuss.
The problem I suppose is that they are a cult making money. I remember the time of Strasser another money making cult. Once people get sucked in all reason and commonsense goes.
If there is so much video footage of their methods and now there were problems with Catwalk in a very public display then why don't the authorites, BHS or someone in the UK do something about his displays over here? Why is there no pressure being put on the authorities?
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